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Something's wrong with comment sections

The comment sections on some of the pages keep loading endlessly and won't show up. Is there any way to fix this? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 01:48, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Comments are loading fine for me. That being said, I do have one complaint with comments in that they're not mobile-friendly; this issue can easily be fixed with CSS, as I have done before. Tali64³ (talk) 02:20, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Well, it's mostly the Warner Bros. Discovery page with the comment section that won't load. Also, how can an issue like this be fixed with CSS? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 02:43, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Your perceived issue with comments not loading probably can't be fixed with CSS; my issue with comments not being mobile friendly definitely can. Tali64³ (talk) 04:50, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

I'm using mobile, and do you mean to tell me that the comment section on that page is beyond repair because I'm using mobile? That wouldn't be good if that was the case. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 05:06, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

The issue I'm describing applies to the Comments extension in general, not just that specific page; however, the page you're having issues with does appear to fail for me, not just for comments but for every other section. Tali64³ (talk) 05:09, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Well, do you think there's something wrong with that page? Can anything be done about it? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 08:05, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Probably not but I can save a link to the page and forward it to OA at some point if he can see anything internally.

The extension has and will continue to have bugs, some of them being difficult at best to resolve or appearing and disappearing quite arbitrarily. It is what we're left with now, the ship on a replacement has sailed unless there's a proper movement to change it. --Raidarr (talk) 10:27, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Y'know, I'm starting to think that the reason why a lot of comments and videos aren't loading on many pages is because those pages have WAY too much content, like the Mario Movie page and the Warner Bros. Discovery page, since those pages have SO MANY details that I can't access the comment sections in them at all. I wonder if I should try to trim them down a bit? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 02:18, March 7, 2024 (UTC)

I agree. This is for the best. Snow (talk) 02:56, March 7, 2024 (UTC)

Too many embeds would probably affect comments, I don't think detail itself is the problem although it's always not a bad idea to wipe out pure nitpicks or gigantic lists if a page already has plenty going on. Maybe consider a limit to how many embeds as that is what would cause the most stress from a software perspective though OA could probably say better than me exactly. Comments are frankly a partially broken jank system that I take for a grain of salt if it specifically works or not. You, SSK, should particularly remember the problems Miraheze had with that extension. --raidarr (💬, admin) 11:25, March 7, 2024 (UTC)

Should the second season of the Clone High reboot be a good page?

Because I read and watched reviews of it and most people agree that this season is way better than the previous one. Batboy234 (talk) 20:28, February 26, 2024 (UTC)

If it cumulatively seems more positive then the page should focus on those improvements yes. --Raidarr (talk) 23:08, February 26, 2024 (UTC)

I recently watched the second season of the reboot, and while this season is an improvement over the previous one, I still think that the overall season is still mid at best. Especially with the first few episodes being just as rough as the first six episodes of the first season of the reboot. As well as the unnecessary gore and swearing still being present. Maybe have the perspective written as decent or average? Snow (talk) 02:47, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

The difference is barely distinguishable to be honest. Just ordering the positives/negatives differently and slight tweaks to other bits and to categories. I think a balance to average it out as better but not quite there listing improvements first and then reiterating negatives wouldn't be too hard. --Raidarr (talk) 09:34, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

Avatar The Last Airbender (2024)

So the new Netflix Avatar reboot came out and while I enjoyed it, it has some serious problems, should we add it? Drag0n (talk) 02:05, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

So far, all I could say about the series is that it is a vast improvement from M. Night Shyamalan's infamous live action movie. Though it's still not as good as the original animated series. It can be added, but maybe the perspective of the page should be written in the mediocre/decent/average tone. Snow (talk) 02:52, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

Night Swim (2024)

Night Swim came out at the beginning of this year, and people DON'T seem to be too kind to it. Should we add it here?

SlashcraftGaming (talk) 22:54, March 5th, 2024 (UTC)

If you want to. Then add it. (Drag0n)

Re; Topic headers.

I believe having relatively free reign on topic headers would be a good idea. As far as I know they're not particularly harmful, most users here don't have a problem with them, and having every word in a header start with a capital can be a bit unsightly. MisterSandmanAU (talk) 09:30, March 8, 2024 (UTC)

Any possible covering on Sweet Baby.Inc or is this not allowed on this wiki?

Hi, as of a couple days ago I've been tuning into some exposure of Sweet Baby. Inc covered by WDW Pro and many others and I'm not sure if Sweet Baby.Inc is gonna get its own article on this wiki or not. If you don't want to add it in, don't worry, I can accept and take no for an answer. NL(TheRealCecil) (talk) 21:07, March 13, 2024 (UTC)

I actually plan on adding that company to this wiki because of their actions, and I'll work on their page in my sandbox beforehand. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 2:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

What is wrong with them? a game having a diverse cast doesn't always mean that it is bad, you can have a game with a protagonist of color with a good story and good gameplay and a game can be still bad if it features a white male protagonist, most of those games that are hated for being woke are bad for having bad gameplay or story or any other reason that isn't it having LGBTQ+ characters, there are good media that have LGBTQ+ characters. MandalorePrinny (talk) 02:45, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

SBI is just a narrative consultation studio, they don't actually do much. The steam group thing was also blown way out of proportion, the steam group was made deliberately to boycott SBI for having a "woke agenda". The employee who was suggesting to report them was doing the right thing. MisterSandmanAU (talk) 03:19, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

At least there not going the extra mile. Andrewgtv05 (talk) 09:40, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

Why transphobia is bad?

I want to know transphobia is bad since I was talking with a transphobic friend and I not decided to explain why transphobia is bad to him because I did not wanted to be betrayed like those friends that once betrayed me and I still miss. I have befriended some transgender persons and in my opinion trans people deserve to get nromal jobs like anyone else. Any good arguments to refute transphobia?. MandalorePrinny (talk) 02:39, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

Uuuuuhhhhhh.... do I even need to explain why it's bad to be transphobic? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 7:47, March 16, 2024 (UTC)

Please say it so everyone can know it!. MandalorePrinny (talk) 18:13, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

Because it's offensive to trans people and they'll feel discrimated against if you say anything offensive to them or call them any slurs? Are you serious? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 11:35, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

Transphobia is literally just discrimination against trans people. I don't think I should have to elaborate on why that's bad, especially since SSK gave a pretty succinct answer. MisterSandmanAU (talk) 08:44, March 18, 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I started to hate conservatism because I have been researching and I discovered that a lot of conservatives are homophobic bigots, not all of them take it to the extreme but still. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:07, April 3, 2024 (UTC)

That is very obivous MandalorePrinny (talk) 17:57, March 20, 2024 (UTC)

This is probably a poor place to find arguments that are going to work on that friend. Transphobia along with other behaviors like homophobia and racism aren't something you can talk out of a person casually. If you want to make a difference you need to understand why they think that way and it's probably upbringing, often religiously laden, and a lifetime of assumptions backed by whatever contrived supports they wanted to make for it. If you confront and argue you'll make him defensive. Defensive = no progress, no mind change. You're not going to undo these overnight. You may be able to subtly prove them wrong and if you're really fortunate you might figure out a way to strike at the heart of the bias and loosen him up a bit, assuming he's not constantly reinforced by other factors. But it's probably too complicated a matter to go on about here and I'd look for dedicated resources elsewhere on the internet for this topic. --raidarr (💬, admin) 09:54, March 18, 2024 (UTC)

I've befriended some trans people on internet and I think they deserve to be happy and have the same rights like everyone else, but is ironic how they call gender-reassignment surgery "mutilation" but they don't say anything about other surgeries like those to remove parts of your body that have a cancer, by that logic other types of surgery are also mutilations, ironic. MandalorePrinny (talk) 16:59, March 22, 2024 (UTC)

Also there are straight people that let babies get circumcised and that has even caused deaths, no children should get circumcised. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:02, April 3, 2024 (UTC)

Religions are responsible for many horrible things that have happened in history like conflicts, sexism and many other bad things. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:03, April 3, 2024 (UTC)

A user called Angry109 keeps edit warring with me

A user named Angry109 keeps edit warring on the Modern Cartoon Network page over the infobox quote, he wants it as the new slogan for CN, but the other quote is funny to me, can staff talk to them?TheMoonandEarth (talk) 21:33, March 19, 2024 (UTC) TheMoonandEarth (talk) 22:29, March 20, 2024 (UTC)

I'll handle this. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 00:45, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

i think the original caption should remain because if i had to guess i would say more people on the wiki want that caption instead of the one Angry109 wants ToTheEdge (talk) 17:26, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

Vandal

A vandal named Wacki came here, and is changing infoboxes quote into nonsense and adding nonsense display titles to pages, I believe they might be -abigblueworld. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 03:28, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

Took care of it. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 03:48, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

Didn't do so well W (talk) 15:26, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

Is there a particular reason why you're doing this, W? SpaceProtagonist (talk) 15:40, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

I am raider. W (talk) 16:23, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

You are not. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 16:24, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

Should pages for the flash seasons 1-6a in good media and 6b-9 in bad media be created

i've watched the show and while i have heard criticisms starting with season 3 i started hearing it called bad much more often when season 7 premiered and i would say the decline really kicked into full gear after Crisis on infinite earths happened which is why i'm saying 6b i'm asking because this might end up being disputed so i want to know where it is generally considered to have become bad - ToTheEdge (Talk)

Are websites going to move to ShoutWiki's Rotten Websites Wiki?

I noticed pages about website are less added and ShoutWiki's RWW still exist. Oldwish12 (talk) 11:46, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

I'd also forgot to mention if this wiki exclude other entertainment industry music and radio. Oldwish12

No decision has been made regarding pages about websites, but I'd personally be in favor of moving them there (for negative pages, at least, since no FWW exists at the moment). Tali64³ (talk) 23:59, March 27, 2024 (UTC)

Website pages should move and be removed as they are not in scope here. Likewise, music & radio are not in scope either. --raidarr (💬, admin) 00:41, March 28, 2024 (UTC)

Most negative pages have been moved; positive ones will remain for the moment (unless another admin decides to delete them) since there's no wiki to move them to. Tali64³ (talk) 02:28, March 28, 2024 (UTC)

Block pronouns now

it is a sockpuppet of abigblue. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 02:25, March 24, 2024 (UTC)

new vandal

the vandal is named entering a username and is putting pages up for deletion randomly ToTheEdge (talk)

About Jirard the Completionist

Okay, so I'm sure pretty much a lot of people, including ones from this wiki, probably know about the controversy surrounding Jirard the Completionist and his charity months ago, and pretty much everyone has turned on him because of it, and almost no one will probably ever take him seriously again, so I'm wondering if we should continue to use him as a reliable source to various pages on this wiki despite what he did months ago. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 04:12, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure anymore, considering what he did... CarltheToonMan42 (talk) 04:18, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

Wait, is embezzlement really that SERIOUS of a crime, I barely heard about what it is.--TheMoonandEarth (talk) 04:23, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

If anyone really considers him reliable and uses him as such that should stop for sure. If it's a side opinion and wasn't clearly plagiarized (the real issue that probably strikes a good number of reviewers at this point), it can be a backup reference as embezzlers can still be right about things. As crimes go it's not the worst but it's bad enough and outs him as a dirtbag so nothing should be dependent on him either way. --raidarr (💬, admin) 08:38, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

Do you guys agree with the term “If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing”?

I recently saw a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFDRAEducI&ab_channel=SalC1) that shows if you didn't migrate your Minecraft account to Microsoft one after the migration window ends then you lost access to Minecraft and the 20-ish dollars you paid for the game is now gone and even if you send your proof of purchase to MS, Then they will send you the same automated response from MS saying that the migration window is ended.

Also Ubisoft said that that gamers should be “feel comfortable not owning their games” (https://en.as.com/meristation/news/ubisoft-gamers-should-feel-comfortable-not-owning-their-games-n/) and then delete inactive accounts unless there's a purchase in the account (https://www.pcgamer.com/ubisoft-clarifies-it-does-not-delete-inactive-accounts-that-have-purchased-games-after-its-policy-came-under-question/)

So a message to all New Qualitipedia users and admins, Do you guys agree with the term “If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing”? If not, then why. FrankInHD2010 (talk) 02:00, April 6, 2024 (UTC)

It's irrelevant if we do or don't tbh, the law is what it is and the law explicitly lets companies screw users in these manners. For that reason I draw the line that this discussion cannot go into advocacy.

That being said I think piracy is a scare-word that doesn't actually apply to unauthorized copying (you can't steal what was never a single hard thing, however the act of unauthorized copying is no brighter than dark grey at the best of times) and copyright is a runaway evil used to justify absolute garbage behavior and regressive practices like these. So morally I do agree and to an extent am probably even more radical. --raidarr (💬, admin) 08:38, April 6, 2024 (UTC)

Alright, also fun fact: In the Minecraft official website, the word "buy" in the "Buy Minecraft" button is now changed to "get", meaning "Get Minecraft" which increased the debate whatever or not buying and piracy are indeed owning/stealing.FrankInHD2010 (talk) 17:52, April 6, 2024 (UTC)

Am I the fastest growing account on Qualitipedia?

Because of my rapid growth on my friends list, am I the fastest of the growing accounts? ~ GoodGirls(20)07 - The fastest growing account in history of Quadlitipedia 17:11, April 16, 2024 (UTC)

maybe but don't count on it ToTheEdge (talk) 17:12, April 16, 2024 (UTC)

hmmm... - GoodGirls(20)07 - The fastest growing account in history of Quadlitipedia 17:13, April 16, 2024 (UTC)

Do good medias have some bad morals?

I wonder if some good medias have this, mainly because some bad medias do have some good morals. Sejdini3333 (talk) 01:41, April 17, 2024 (UTC) It depends on the specific media you're talking about, but some good media really have bad morals. YouTubePoop2000 (talk) 15:07, April 22, 2024 (UTC)

Should Comedy Central's Ren and Stimpy reboot have a negative or average page here?

I know since it's not officially released yet, but because recently some episodes got leaked and... They weren't that great and to make matters worse, they changed the theme song to a bad one, and as result, it received a mixed-to-negative reception from the fans. Sad to see Vanessa Coffey, Bob Jacques and Kelly Armstrong in this mess :(

Is okay this reboot should have its own page here in a negative or average view?

MariaJúlia1718 (talk) 16:34, May 4, 2024 (UTC)

I’d say wait till it officially releases. SquirtSquirtle (talk) 16:31, May 15, 2024 (UTC)

This. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 21:57, May 15, 2024 (UTC)

Are bad and good commercials allowed here?

I’m asking this because I’m tempted to make a page about the AT&T ad called What a Pro Wants, for those who don’t know, the ad is infamous for being overplayed on NHL and NBA broadcasts. And the commercial is universally hated. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 18:15, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

They are not in scope for the wiki I'm afraid. --raidarr (💬) 22:22, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

Well, if so, then why does this page exist? Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island "Still the Big One" Commercial TheMoonandEarth (talk) 22:33, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

If I remember right, the TV Shows Wikis used to have pages about commercials back on Miraheze, and also, wasn't there a Reception Wiki about bad commercials? I kinda thought commercials would be on-topic for this wiki because of those things I've just mentioned. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 23:47, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

I see what you mean, particularly SSK (it's otherwise possible we have pages on things that shouldn't be here). I've updated the rules to clarify yes, commercials are a go, but they need to be high profile in some way - ie something you can source, not a personal opinion on dumb commercials nobody really knows about. --raidarr (💬) 22:04, May 6, 2024 (UTC)

Loud House Seasonal Rot

so i've heard that season 7 just like season 3 has a mixed to positive reception and i was wondering if the good media side should be changed to season 1-3, 7-present and bad media be changed to seasons 4-6 or if season 7 is too mediocre to be changed - ToTheEdge (talk) 13:27, May 8, 2024 (UTC)

It hasn't won the crowd back yet, so, you should keep it like that. However, it is an improvement over the sixth season and especially the fifth, but not enough. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 14:01, May 8, 2024 (UTC)

so it's essentially spongebob season 8 quality got it ToTheEdge (talk) 14:04, May 8, 2024 (UTC)

Should the Doctor Who 60th Anniversary specials and the new season be on the category of Bad Media or the category of Good Media?

Despite their positive reactions from critics most reviews from audiences in RottenTomatoes are negative and because of this I think they should be put on the Bad Media category, even if the first 60th anniversary special was okay from my point of view. MandalorePrinny (talk) 19:34, May 11, 2024 (UTC)

I miss the old Qualitipedias

To be honest, I still miss the articles that used the words "SJW" and "Woke" even if I started to think that most people seem to bash certain media for having diversity rather than criticizing the story or the acting and other things of it (and I think most people call some media "Woke" just because they are bad and ignore that some actually good media also have diversity on them), Some people even say things like "Sesame Street was always woke" or "the original Star Trek series was woke" even if the term "Woke" was not invented until around the 2010s. after all a work having a diverse cast of characters or actors doesn't make it bad, there are some good works with diversity like Street Fighter and most fighting video game series (quite understandable since they are about fighting tournaments) and I have never seen anyone calling a fighting game series or any yuri anime "woke", If American History X came out recently somebody would call it "woke" because it is a film that shows that racism is bad but also has good character development (which is why I like it).

But I also thing that in the old Qualitipedias the moderators and administrators took some bad decisions and most people called them "right-wing" despite that some users were apolitical and RWW had articles criticizing right-wing websites like Conservapedia and InfoWars which deserve to be criticized since Coservapedia is nothing but Wikipedia with conservative bias and InfoWars is a fake news website. If the moderators were more responsible they couldn't have closed. MandalorePrinny (talk) 21:31, May 22, 2024 (UTC)

You have the right to think this, but harping on about SJW and Woke was just one of the many steps that was leading to being incompatible with Miraheze and promoting cyclic drama. --raidarr (💬) 15:42, May 23, 2024 (UTC)

Adding Websites and Hatedoms/Fandoms to the wiki

So as you know Rotten Websites Wiki and Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms archives are becoming lost, so we’re gonna put them on this wiki. BKBLUEY (talk) 16:02, May 29, 2024 (UTC)

Rotten Websites Wiki need not be here, as it still exists: https://rottenwebsites.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Rotten_Websites_Wiki. SquirtSquirtle (talk) 08:53, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Even if it did not exist, the full scope of Rotton Websites Wiki would not be an authorized expansion of the wiki. The Fandoms and Hatedoms content would result in immediate deletion or wiki closure. --raidarr (💬) 10:54, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Yea fair enough SquirtSquirtle (talk) 13:35, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I think your right… BKBLUEY (talk) 00:42, June 18, 2024 (UTC)

Could we make Robin a moderator (no not that one)?

I saw what he does on here and by the looks of it, he seems very responsible and mature enough for the job and has been here on this wiki for quite some time now so why not? Batboy234 (talk) 01:49, May 31, 2024 (UTC)

i concur he definitely seems to be a good choice ToTheEdge (talk) 02:13, May 31, 2024 (UTC)

Maybe. That depends on what other staff members think. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 04:40, May 31, 2024 (UTC)

New main page design

I think we need a new design for the main page. The new design for the main page will be based on the designs for the front page of the most reception wikis from 2021-2022 (including the banners of media and the featured article section), but will take an element from the 2022 design, which will be the "Recent Changes" section being able to be scrolled up and down. However, the new main page design will feature something that wasn't featured in any of the previous designs, which will be having its edges rounded. There will also be two banners (one that shows bad media, and one that shows good media). However, we need to work on the design in our sandbox, and the design will not be used until its appearance is complete. Should I work on the new main page design? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 18:27, June 1, 2024 (UTC)

idk i kinda like this one ToTheEdge (talk) 18:35, June 1, 2024 (UTC)

Well, I say if you're going to modify the main page for the wiki, make sure to add some more positive-media pages to the featured section. I've been noticing a trend on this wiki that a number of users tend to constantly look the dark/negative side of certain media, deliberately adding more negative media than positive media, and sometimes even banning redeeming qualities on pages (Granted, some of the media deserves it, but not always... particularly users do it nearly every time the negative work has offensive/disturbing material in it, regardless of whether it's condemning the practice, or clearly being treating it negatively, trying to convey a message to viewers without glorifying it.) Now, don't get me wrong, it's important to discuss the bad qualities of various works, and address when something goes to far, but there is such a thing as going too extreme with the practice. Also, is it really appropriate to feature some of these pages on the opening page? If newcomers open the wiki, and take a link to say, Sin Kids AU or Sonichu, it might turn some people away before they even see anything else, or give people the wrong idea and made them assume we're overly pessimistic about pop culture or media types. Not helping is the ratio of how many pages are featured: 40 negative pages compared to only 27 positive pages. Surely, you don't need to show all of those negative pages, at least add some more positives to even things out. (This is exactly why I try to avoid negative pages as often as possible, the others already have that covered.) You've seen some of the damage control I've been trying to do for various pages. What do you think of my suggestion? SpaceProtagonist (talk) 17:37, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea. It could help balance the number of pages featured on the front page and improve its appearance. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 17:44, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

I'm starting to work on it now! It's in its earliest stage for now, since it only has the two banners, each showing an equal ration of good and bad media, but I'll add in the rest of the features I mentioned at the start of the topic.

You can see it in my sandbox here. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 19:42, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

Sigh. I've recently been checking the edit history with some of the negative pages, and I've just got to say... "I rest my case!" Remember how a bunch of users added the NSFW and NSFL template to shows and episodes that aren't even targeted towards adults and there was a lot of abuse forcing the admins to delete both of the templates? Well now we've got a new, yet similar problem. A bunch of users are going around on various pages with less than ideal content, and then removing the redeeming qualities and claiming the page doesn't deserve them... regardless of whether the work in question actually supports it or not. It's getting out of control, and I feel this will just become Miraheze 2.0. If nothing's done about these edits soon, I'm quitting this wiki. I don't think it's even worth it if the users are going to be this picky and over-critical over everything. SpaceProtagonist (talk) 21:54, June 4, 2024 (UTC)

Same with me. If nothing is done about this, then screw it, I'll be outta here. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 22:01, June 4, 2024 (UTC)

The answer is simple: report anyone who is doing this to the people who actually have authority to do this (admins) so they can put their foot down. This was the case very recently with Rainbow Puppy. If people are letting it happen without reporting it to the people who can do something about it directly and clearly, they are adding to the issue. --raidarr (💬) 10:56, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I have made an alternate redesign that is more closely inspired by the original wikis; it may be found here. Tali64³ (talk) 21:25, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

I think that's a lot better than my scrapped main page redesign. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 19:02, June 3, 2024 (UTC)

Whilst I agree that those pages are better than the current, please optimise them for the fixed width of the Vector skin. It is causing a lot of horizontal scrolling. Original Authority (talk) 20:05, June 3, 2024 (UTC)

Alright. I put Tali's main page into a sandbox, but updated its appearance to optimize it for the fixed width of the Vector skin (via having both banners on top of each other rather than next to each other), and also added two more pages on each of the banners. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 15:24, June 10, 2024 (UTC)

The green assault is tacky imo but I suppose it will have to do and I will shrug and approve of the design should an admin wish to implement. --raidarr (💬) 10:57, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Um... what do you mean by "green assault"? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 13:53, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I mean the harsh contrasts of bright green, black on dark green, interspersed with white. I've never been a fan of this but this was an issue dating back to old qp and a criticism I'd have much more strongly for other living reception wikis. It's not enough for me to try and press a change or revision about. --raidarr (💬) 18:59, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I might need to tweak Tali's main page design one more time in order to get rid of this issue. In order to deal with this problem, what colors should I use? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 19:14, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Question

Why did you guys revert my edit on Sonic Omens? Ezzan (talk) 17:51, June 5, 2024 (UTC)

Even if I wasn't an admin, can these implemented as rules?

Here they are:

1. No pun for idioms on pointer (such as, mammoth/dead elephant in the room), however, the hybrid one allowed (such as, let the elephant out of the room). Reason: Pun hardly happened on pointer.
2. Any less controversial media page should have redeeming quality (such as, Piranha 3DD). Reason: Some of them were unintentional and not dramatic enough.
3. Era in title shouldn't split (such as, season 28a or late 2018) and must whole (such as, season 28 or 2018). Reason: Most people are critical and cared about whole.

Oldwish12 (talk) 03:51, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

1. seems like it would be too hard to regulate; having idioms keeps pages vibrant in the same way as the custom headers do.
2. should already be the case; the page you mentioned doesn't explicitly forbid redeeming qualities, so any user can theoretically add them if they exist. There has been talk of allowing redeeming qualities on any page (even those that cover more controversial works); I do not know if that will go anywhere.
3. does not account for works that see a perceived decline/uptick in quality midseason; splitting pages this way makes sense in those cases. Raidarr suggested just doing away with separate pages for bad/good eras of works, which may be worth exploring as an option.

Tali64³ (talk) 04:33, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

1. Idioms are fine, just pun and wordplay that I thought to be an issue.
2. Ok.
3. I know but many people preferred to rant whole season or year.

Oldwish12 (talk) 08:23, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

1. Concur with Tali, unenforceable.
2. Concur with Tali.
3. Again, leaning towards Tali's statement for resolution. As for 'people preferred to rant', there's your problem: fundamentally we shouldn't be here for ranting, that's a recipe for bad articles.

--raidarr (💬) 09:28, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

Alright then. Oldwish12 (talk) 23:27, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

again i am against the idea of doing away with split pages for bad/good eras of shows, sometimes they become so awful that they feel like a parody of the show (looking at you post-crisis The Flash). plus since there's a 10 vid limit it's incredibly hard to reinforce pointers for both good seasons and bad seasons. back to the flash it hit major seasonal rot in the latter half of season 6 when the mirror monarch arc happened and season 7 was even worse and that shouldn't get its own page to talk about that? i personally think good/bad era pages should remain because of how awful/good they can get. i sent a message to raidarr about this a while back and if i'm interpreting it correctly, he agreed. ToTheEdge (talk) 15:36, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

The pages need to then be structured in a way where people aren't fighting about dates especially if there is issue about when a decline started, unless people can properly play the source game to draw a line. Disney is an example of what that may look like, ideally being split between 'modern' and 'classic' which aptly captures how most of the hate is divided without quibbling over dates. --raidarr (💬) 10:34, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

Skibidi toilet

i think it should be in forbidden content as someone is going to get angry no matter what perspective is used, for example if it is in bad media people who love the series will get angry, and if it is in good media people who hate it will get angry also i'm going to protect the pages in forbidden content to where only admins can create them - ToTheEdge (talk) 23:10, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

and to clarify i only protected pokemon sword and shield to reinforce the ban bc some people don't read the rules, i will rescind the protection if told to ToTheEdge (talk) 23:17, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

@ToTheEdge: It should be in bad media. No one with a brain likes it. Money12123 (contribs | sandbox) 01:11, June 9, 2024 (UTC)

Feel free, TTE. I moved the attempted page about it to blog in part for this reason but never updated the rules. --raidarr (💬) 10:33, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

My message to this Wiki

Instead of having this wiki that taught about the qualities of some medias, can we describe about the morals though? Sejdini3333 (talk) 00:37, June 11, 2024 (UTC)

That would be worse than the wiki trying to judge quality. --raidarr (💬) 10:31, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

Can I actually become an admin here?

I know I've been wanting to become admin for a while, but it feels like every user is becoming an admin except for me. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 23:07, June 11, 2024 (UTC)

If that is true then it will continue to be the case. I do not have confidence in you gaining administrative powers and I can't imagine a lot of people do either if they're being serious. --raidarr (💬) 10:31, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

I'm not an admin myself, but I'd say if you gradually improve and contribute to the wiki often over a year or two, and assuming this wiki remain open for a long while, I'm betting it'll eventually happen. SquirtSquirtle (talk) 18:54, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

(oops I think I accidentally replied to Raidarr) SquirtSquirtle (talk) 18:54, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Should "Le Avventure di Gatto Evaristo" added as a bad show?

Should the show added as a bad show? It is a rip-off of Sylvester the Cat from Looney Tunes. MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 04:10, June 12, 2024 (UTC)

Yes. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 07:00, June 12, 2024 (UTC)

I made my sandbox page about that show. MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 20:34, June 12, 2024 (UTC)

Should Ready or Not (2023) be listed as a good, average or bad game?

Considering the game has good graphics, realistic and decent story, though the game does have it's flaws like the AI being unfair.

Crashbreaker (talk) 15:58, June 20, 2024 (UTC)

Star Wars: The Acolyte

If one were to make a page on the show (not me, though, because I never actually watched it), would the page lean towards the Good media side? Or the Bad media side? SlashcraftGaming (talk) 02:04, June 27, 2024 (UTC)

Well concidering the IMDB score, probably the Bad Side. Andrewgtv05 (talk) 02:12, June 27, 2024 (UTC)

idk man maybe it should be on good media ToTheEdge (talk) 02:41, June 27, 2024 (UTC)

I agree with it being on Bad Media. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:06, July 1, 2024 (UTC)

No I disagree with bad media. Like I said before. The show was severely review bombed in Many sites including IMDb. These people are refusing to give this show a chance because of attitude towards the sequel trilogy. I want the toxic behavior from Star Wars fans to end now Wikiti98 (talk) 19:59, July 2, 2024 (UTC)

I would refrain from having this show have a page at all because it has been relentlessly review bombed and hated on for many weak and biased reasons. A lot of people are hating on this show just because of featuring a diverse cast as well as for reasons that are just plain homophobic and racist. There are there’s more episodes left in this show to air for the season too so we don’t know what will happen until the episodes actually air. Wikiti98 (talk) 20:20, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

So, in other words, it should be in Forbidden pages? SlashcraftGaming (talk) 20:49, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

not even remotely close to what was said ToTheEdge (talk) 21:09, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

To be honest, I really think we need to discuss this with the rest of the staff SlashcraftGaming (talk) 22:53, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

honestly i only jumped in to make a sarcastic remark, in response to both you and andrewgtv05 ToTheEdge (talk) 23:37, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

It will be put in bad media. Other YouTubers who are politically neutral (I say that because calling anyone who doesn't like diversity and inclusion in mediums who might have valid reasons racists and homophobic is pretty outlandish) criticized the series as well, including Penguinz0. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 05:47, July 2, 2024 (UTC)

Cj that is not for you the say. We can’t place the acolyte on bad media. First off, it has not released all of its episodes yet as it has three more to go with one airing tonight. Secondly, the fifth episode is showing a very interesting path for the show to take due to the insane lightsaber duel that occurred. Thirdly if you deem the show bad media and make a page here then it will become a site of toxicity for toxic Star Wars fans to gather around a bash it relentlessly. I am sick of the bad behavior from Star Wars fans lately and this has got to stop. It is the reason why I had pages from last Jedi and rise of skywalker removed here. Wikiti98 (talk) 19:55, July 2, 2024 (UTC)

I've been stalked on Disney Wiki

There was a user who is a Sons Of Miyazaki member known as SegaMasterSystem. He stalked and harassed me for liking Phineas & Ferb calling me a "Phinetard" as well as thinking that I fap to Candace which I don't and this was in June 15-16, 2023 before they fully betrayed Soma Julius Cruz. If you see a Sons Of Miyazaki member block them as they have a long history of slandering and defaming others as well as making hate videos, comments and tweets about them. Oh and they have one member who joked about suicide in 2021

• I don't know what to say about this. This seems very inappropriate to mention here, although I suppose I can remain on the lookout for any trolls making bad videos or comments.

Reflecting on the Electronic Arts page issue

For those interested I mean this and the following comments (which btw would ideally go here).

It's disappointing that it went downhill that badly. Discussion doesn't need to be tit for tat long argument, they do not need to "make us look like first graders fighting in a playground during fricking recess". It was a simple problem of how to title the page. Nobody handled this well. There was a bureaucrat who started it in a rough way, two more bureaucrats who tried to help but did not mediate, and two mods an an admin brawling in full public view with several users dropping in. This is what people laugh at. And it happened after big bad Raidarr and CJ stepped down from the highest level. So lets take some lessons out of this.

• Dates are subjective, full stop, rarely is there a perfect choice. Nobody brought a very clear argument why it has to be this date or that date. This is why I tried to set a precedence with Disney. What we can generally agree is that these companies have been acting worse in recent years and that is something you can set an uncontroversial title about, the dates can be messed about within the page but the title should not change often at all and it should not make 'declarations' (it all started June 2017 or whatever... no). If people disagree the company went downhill at all then at least that's cleaner to discuss. If you have to split pages for length or subject matter this would be the best attitude to have. This is something bureaucrats/staff need to think about between themselves (you're a team, teams work together) and set a clear policy on so this kind of problem does not repeat.
• Going on the above, staff should not be fighting each other like this. Bureaucrats need to make decisions clearly between each other. All three of you are on and have discord, this can easily be done in private channels which not even I or Original Authority need to see. In fact almost all of you are on discord. Staff should not be threatening users with blocks for disagreement. That's a major CJ L. Staff should not threaten to block each other. That's a major Edge L. If you want the issue to stop you have to approach the person, point out the problem and ensure it doesn't happen again, without it being buried in a mess. That is a Pacman L. Again, nobody handled this very well. Ideally the bureaucrats agree on a warning or whatever and approach CJ since he is an admin, and whoever else needs to be talked to. Anyone could do this if they back themselves up well however. A moderator shouldn't have to be the one to do this but they can if they must. I'm assuming you all would like this wiki to get better. Here is how you start.
• Lots of talking past each other. I don't even know what to say to fix this except please try to be open to each other's view I guess. This project is not going to work if you live in different realities to each other. But this is why there needs to be a staff policy on how pages should be based and that policy needs to be enforced in a neutral way. Then staff can point at the rules and go based on them, not their own personal standard of what they think should happen. Consistency is the only way you're going to win here.
• "Consensus ≠ Always right" - this is a wiki based on what people think is good or bad. It was subjective from the start. Consensus is the only thing you have when people can't even agree on the facts. The wiki should be presenting the points of what people think and from there the reader makes their own choice which side is valid. This is a remarkably FreezingTNT style take and anyone who's been here a while knows how that went. This is a wiki not your blog. If you want to go based on your own objective fact then make a dissenting blog with your argument and the wiki can reference it for points. This is why wikipedia is obsessed with sources. It shouldn't have to be that strict here but people need to be in the right direction at least.
• "i had no authority to try to resolve that nor threaten to block CJ, Raidarr was right to call me out and chances are if he was still bureaucrat i would have gotten demoted for that" (Edge) - staff shouldn't climb over each other but if nobody is trying to resolve the problem (the first comment didn't, your comment tried but with a shit attitude, Tali didn't resolve, in fact you were the only one for a good while who tried to make progress on the issue. That + you actually trying the whole time so far gives you job security in my book (for what it's worth) and I don't like seeing people demoted at first unless the promotion was an issue in the first place. What I would say is that everyone will hopefully learn their lesson from this. I don't think the bureaucrats have much right to even warn you here unless they accept responsibility for the above issues as well. Only if this becomes a constant issue and you, CJ, whomever fail to learn would demotion be reasonable. And to judge this the bureaucrats have to take charge in the first place.

Gents, you have signed up to run the place, it's time to actually run it.

--raidarr (💬) 13:50, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

i archived it because it ran on for so long ToTheEdge (talk) 16:16, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

also no i do not have discord, anybody going as ToTheEdge on your discord is an impersonator, my parents don't let me use discord ToTheEdge (talk) 16:18, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly; I had considered leaving a comment on why references are important but dismissed it as irrelevant to the conversation. Tali64³ (talk) 19:33, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

I think this wiki needs to be fixed

https://tiresomewikis.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Qualitipedia_and_the_Original_Reception_Wikis_(2019-present)#CJ.27s_New_Qualitipedia_.28Mid-November_2023-present.29~~~~ <- remove the nowikis

• So what exactly is the issue with the wiki now? Because some of those pointers are outdated.SpaceProtagonist (talk) 12:45, July 6, 2024 (UTC)
• First, fix your post. --raidarr (💬) 14:01, July 6, 2024 (UTC)

Chilly Willy

Chilly Willy is Walter Lantz's second most famous character, after Woody Woodpecker, I wanted to make a page for him but I don't know where to click to create a new page. Ricardao (talk) 22:47, July 7, 2024 (UTC)

that's for the character wikis not new qp - ToTheEdge (talk) 23:00, July 7, 2024 (UTC)

I want to create a page for Chilly Willy's shorts and not for the character. Ricardao (talk) 23:04, July 7, 2024 (UTC)

I want to make a page for the character's short series. Ricardao (talk) 03:12, July 8, 2024 (UTC)

Well, if the page is not ready yet, move it to a sandbox or blog and then when the page is ready, move it to a normal page. YouTubePoop2000 (talk) 11:13, July 9, 2024 (UTC)

Demonophobia doesn't deserve to have no page here

It's okay to have a page about Demonophobia because Sakuri being naked is played for horror, not for pornography. Plus, the game has an actual story, and Sakuri is only naked in one level.

Here are a few links we should put on the Bad Media sections of the wiki's main page.

|Read about A stand alone sequel to Space Jam that shoves in Warner Bros properties to the point of confusion.

• Sorry, but as per a rule by Original Authority, we can't add any new pages to be featured on the home page: good or bad. Unless you can change his their mind, I can't do anything to help.SpaceProtagonist (talk) 16:12, July 10, 2024 (UTC)

The Pets trilogy from Tubi

Don't know if this one is too obscure but all of the movies are literally just bad CGI animals watching stock videos of pets. Kinda like ASMR but instead of feeling relaxed your feeling like destroying the TV.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12375526/reviews?ref_=tt_urv https://letterboxd.com/film/pets-2020/reviews/by/activity/ https://letterboxd.com/film/pets-2/reviews/by/activity/

Why can't I make pages anymore?

I tried to import a page onto here, but the red links don't show up anymore, is there any other way I can make pages? Batboy234 (talk) 14:31, July 21, 2024 (UTC)

This also happen to me, the only way to do page i guess is to get to the button Edit a Page, i also can't make any category now. Pacman64fanj (talk) 14:46, July 21, 2024 (UTC)

oh mediawiki is messed up for everyone, that's a relief ToTheEdge (talk) 17:25, July 21, 2024 (UTC)

It's because of the RemoveRedlinks extension that is installed. Bongo Cat (talk) 02:45, July 27, 2024 (UTC)

Well, can someone please remove it? With the way my sandbox is, I copy paste when I finish a page in my sandbox, and then I have to search the title up, and the create the page is black, and if it stays like this, then I may never create a page ever again.--TheMoonandEarth (talk) 02:57, July 27, 2024 (UTC)

The new user pages

Hey, I’m just asking, who changed the user page style? The new style doesn’t look good. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 02:15, July 24, 2024 (UTC)

The change in style is due to the SocialProfile extension being replaced with an extension custom-developed by Original Authority; if you have any suggestions for how to make the user pages look better, do let him know. Tali64³ (talk) 02:35, July 24, 2024 (UTC)

Same. The new user style doesn't look good at all. And now all of the friend list are gone. It makes it look like Fandom, and not in a good way. It's also pretty outdated in a bad way. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 08:37, July 25, 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't really look outdated, seems more inline with OOUI/Wikimedia styles. I also don't see why a wiki needs a friends list in the first place lol. Bongo Cat (talk) 02:41, July 27, 2024 (UTC)