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Something's wrong with comment sections

The comment sections on some of the pages keep loading endlessly and won't show up. Is there any way to fix this? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 01:48, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Comments are loading fine for me. That being said, I do have one complaint with comments in that they're not mobile-friendly; this issue can easily be fixed with CSS, as I have done before. Tali64³ (talk) 02:20, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Well, it's mostly the Warner Bros. Discovery page with the comment section that won't load. Also, how can an issue like this be fixed with CSS? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 02:43, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Your perceived issue with comments not loading probably can't be fixed with CSS; my issue with comments not being mobile friendly definitely can. Tali64³ (talk) 04:50, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

I'm using mobile, and do you mean to tell me that the comment section on that page is beyond repair because I'm using mobile? That wouldn't be good if that was the case. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 05:06, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

The issue I'm describing applies to the Comments extension in general, not just that specific page; however, the page you're having issues with does appear to fail for me, not just for comments but for every other section. Tali64³ (talk) 05:09, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Well, do you think there's something wrong with that page? Can anything be done about it? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 08:05, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Probably not but I can save a link to the page and forward it to OA at some point if he can see anything internally.

The extension has and will continue to have bugs, some of them being difficult at best to resolve or appearing and disappearing quite arbitrarily. It is what we're left with now, the ship on a replacement has sailed unless there's a proper movement to change it. --Raidarr (talk) 10:27, February 24, 2024 (UTC)

Y'know, I'm starting to think that the reason why a lot of comments and videos aren't loading on many pages is because those pages have WAY too much content, like the Mario Movie page and the Warner Bros. Discovery page, since those pages have SO MANY details that I can't access the comment sections in them at all. I wonder if I should try to trim them down a bit? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 02:18, March 7, 2024 (UTC)

I agree. This is for the best. Snow (talk) 02:56, March 7, 2024 (UTC)

Too many embeds would probably affect comments, I don't think detail itself is the problem although it's always not a bad idea to wipe out pure nitpicks or gigantic lists if a page already has plenty going on. Maybe consider a limit to how many embeds as that is what would cause the most stress from a software perspective though OA could probably say better than me exactly. Comments are frankly a partially broken jank system that I take for a grain of salt if it specifically works or not. You, SSK, should particularly remember the problems Miraheze had with that extension. --raidarr (💬, admin) 11:25, March 7, 2024 (UTC)

Should the second season of the Clone High reboot be a good page?

Because I read and watched reviews of it and most people agree that this season is way better than the previous one. Batboy234 (talk) 20:28, February 26, 2024 (UTC)

If it cumulatively seems more positive then the page should focus on those improvements yes. --Raidarr (talk) 23:08, February 26, 2024 (UTC)

I recently watched the second season of the reboot, and while this season is an improvement over the previous one, I still think that the overall season is still mid at best. Especially with the first few episodes being just as rough as the first six episodes of the first season of the reboot. As well as the unnecessary gore and swearing still being present. Maybe have the perspective written as decent or average? Snow (talk) 02:47, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

The difference is barely distinguishable to be honest. Just ordering the positives/negatives differently and slight tweaks to other bits and to categories. I think a balance to average it out as better but not quite there listing improvements first and then reiterating negatives wouldn't be too hard. --Raidarr (talk) 09:34, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

Avatar The Last Airbender (2024)

So the new Netflix Avatar reboot came out and while I enjoyed it, it has some serious problems, should we add it? Drag0n (talk) 02:05, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

So far, all I could say about the series is that it is a vast improvement from M. Night Shyamalan's infamous live action movie. Though it's still not as good as the original animated series. It can be added, but maybe the perspective of the page should be written in the mediocre/decent/average tone. Snow (talk) 02:52, February 27, 2024 (UTC)

Night Swim (2024)

Night Swim came out at the beginning of this year, and people DON'T seem to be too kind to it. Should we add it here?

SlashcraftGaming (talk) 22:54, March 5th, 2024 (UTC)

If you want to. Then add it. (Drag0n)

Re; Topic headers.

I believe having relatively free reign on topic headers would be a good idea. As far as I know they're not particularly harmful, most users here don't have a problem with them, and having every word in a header start with a capital can be a bit unsightly. MisterSandmanAU (talk) 09:30, March 8, 2024 (UTC)

Any possible covering on Sweet Baby.Inc or is this not allowed on this wiki?

Hi, as of a couple days ago I've been tuning into some exposure of Sweet Baby. Inc covered by WDW Pro and many others and I'm not sure if Sweet Baby.Inc is gonna get its own article on this wiki or not. If you don't want to add it in, don't worry, I can accept and take no for an answer. NL(TheRealCecil) (talk) 21:07, March 13, 2024 (UTC)

I actually plan on adding that company to this wiki because of their actions, and I'll work on their page in my sandbox beforehand. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 2:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

What is wrong with them? a game having a diverse cast doesn't always mean that it is bad, you can have a game with a protagonist of color with a good story and good gameplay and a game can be still bad if it features a white male protagonist, most of those games that are hated for being woke are bad for having bad gameplay or story or any other reason that isn't it having LGBTQ+ characters, there are good media that have LGBTQ+ characters. MandalorePrinny (talk) 02:45, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

SBI is just a narrative consultation studio, they don't actually do much. The steam group thing was also blown way out of proportion, the steam group was made deliberately to boycott SBI for having a "woke agenda". The employee who was suggesting to report them was doing the right thing. MisterSandmanAU (talk) 03:19, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

At least there not going the extra mile. Andrewgtv05 (talk) 09:40, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

Why transphobia is bad?

I want to know transphobia is bad since I was talking with a transphobic friend and I not decided to explain why transphobia is bad to him because I did not wanted to be betrayed like those friends that once betrayed me and I still miss. I have befriended some transgender persons and in my opinion trans people deserve to get nromal jobs like anyone else. Any good arguments to refute transphobia?. MandalorePrinny (talk) 02:39, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

Uuuuuhhhhhh.... do I even need to explain why it's bad to be transphobic? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 7:47, March 16, 2024 (UTC)

Please say it so everyone can know it!. MandalorePrinny (talk) 18:13, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

Because it's offensive to trans people and they'll feel discrimated against if you say anything offensive to them or call them any slurs? Are you serious? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 11:35, March 17, 2024 (UTC)

Transphobia is literally just discrimination against trans people. I don't think I should have to elaborate on why that's bad, especially since SSK gave a pretty succinct answer. MisterSandmanAU (talk) 08:44, March 18, 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I started to hate conservatism because I have been researching and I discovered that a lot of conservatives are homophobic bigots, not all of them take it to the extreme but still. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:07, April 3, 2024 (UTC)

That is very obivous MandalorePrinny (talk) 17:57, March 20, 2024 (UTC)

This is probably a poor place to find arguments that are going to work on that friend. Transphobia along with other behaviors like homophobia and racism aren't something you can talk out of a person casually. If you want to make a difference you need to understand why they think that way and it's probably upbringing, often religiously laden, and a lifetime of assumptions backed by whatever contrived supports they wanted to make for it. If you confront and argue you'll make him defensive. Defensive = no progress, no mind change. You're not going to undo these overnight. You may be able to subtly prove them wrong and if you're really fortunate you might figure out a way to strike at the heart of the bias and loosen him up a bit, assuming he's not constantly reinforced by other factors. But it's probably too complicated a matter to go on about here and I'd look for dedicated resources elsewhere on the internet for this topic. --raidarr (💬, admin) 09:54, March 18, 2024 (UTC)

I've befriended some trans people on internet and I think they deserve to be happy and have the same rights like everyone else, but is ironic how they call gender-reassignment surgery "mutilation" but they don't say anything about other surgeries like those to remove parts of your body that have a cancer, by that logic other types of surgery are also mutilations, ironic. MandalorePrinny (talk) 16:59, March 22, 2024 (UTC)

Also there are straight people that let babies get circumcised and that has even caused deaths, no children should get circumcised. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:02, April 3, 2024 (UTC)

Religions are responsible for many horrible things that have happened in history like conflicts, sexism and many other bad things. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:03, April 3, 2024 (UTC)

A user called Angry109 keeps edit warring with me

A user named Angry109 keeps edit warring on the Modern Cartoon Network page over the infobox quote, he wants it as the new slogan for CN, but the other quote is funny to me, can staff talk to them?TheMoonandEarth (talk) 21:33, March 19, 2024 (UTC) TheMoonandEarth (talk) 22:29, March 20, 2024 (UTC)

I'll handle this. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 00:45, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

i think the original caption should remain because if i had to guess i would say more people on the wiki want that caption instead of the one Angry109 wants ToTheEdge (talk) 17:26, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

Vandal

A vandal named Wacki came here, and is changing infoboxes quote into nonsense and adding nonsense display titles to pages, I believe they might be -abigblueworld. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 03:28, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

Took care of it. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 03:48, March 21, 2024 (UTC)

Didn't do so well W (talk) 15:26, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

Is there a particular reason why you're doing this, W? SpaceProtagonist (talk) 15:40, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

I am raider. W (talk) 16:23, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

You are not. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 16:24, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

Should pages for the flash seasons 1-6a in good media and 6b-9 in bad media be created

i've watched the show and while i have heard criticisms starting with season 3 i started hearing it called bad much more often when season 7 premiered and i would say the decline really kicked into full gear after Crisis on infinite earths happened which is why i'm saying 6b i'm asking because this might end up being disputed so i want to know where it is generally considered to have become bad - ToTheEdge (Talk)

Are websites going to move to ShoutWiki's Rotten Websites Wiki?

I noticed pages about website are less added and ShoutWiki's RWW still exist. Oldwish12 (talk) 11:46, March 23, 2024 (UTC)

I'd also forgot to mention if this wiki exclude other entertainment industry music and radio. Oldwish12

No decision has been made regarding pages about websites, but I'd personally be in favor of moving them there (for negative pages, at least, since no FWW exists at the moment). Tali64³ (talk) 23:59, March 27, 2024 (UTC)

Website pages should move and be removed as they are not in scope here. Likewise, music & radio are not in scope either. --raidarr (💬, admin) 00:41, March 28, 2024 (UTC)

Most negative pages have been moved; positive ones will remain for the moment (unless another admin decides to delete them) since there's no wiki to move them to. Tali64³ (talk) 02:28, March 28, 2024 (UTC)

Block pronouns now

it is a sockpuppet of abigblue. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 02:25, March 24, 2024 (UTC)

new vandal

the vandal is named entering a username and is putting pages up for deletion randomly ToTheEdge (talk)

About Jirard the Completionist

Okay, so I'm sure pretty much a lot of people, including ones from this wiki, probably know about the controversy surrounding Jirard the Completionist and his charity months ago, and pretty much everyone has turned on him because of it, and almost no one will probably ever take him seriously again, so I'm wondering if we should continue to use him as a reliable source to various pages on this wiki despite what he did months ago. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 04:12, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure anymore, considering what he did... CarltheToonMan42 (talk) 04:18, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

Wait, is embezzlement really that SERIOUS of a crime, I barely heard about what it is.--TheMoonandEarth (talk) 04:23, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

If anyone really considers him reliable and uses him as such that should stop for sure. If it's a side opinion and wasn't clearly plagiarized (the real issue that probably strikes a good number of reviewers at this point), it can be a backup reference as embezzlers can still be right about things. As crimes go it's not the worst but it's bad enough and outs him as a dirtbag so nothing should be dependent on him either way. --raidarr (💬, admin) 08:38, April 1, 2024 (UTC)

Do you guys agree with the term “If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing”?

I recently saw a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFDRAEducI&ab_channel=SalC1) that shows if you didn't migrate your Minecraft account to Microsoft one after the migration window ends then you lost access to Minecraft and the 20-ish dollars you paid for the game is now gone and even if you send your proof of purchase to MS, Then they will send you the same automated response from MS saying that the migration window is ended.

Also Ubisoft said that that gamers should be “feel comfortable not owning their games” (https://en.as.com/meristation/news/ubisoft-gamers-should-feel-comfortable-not-owning-their-games-n/) and then delete inactive accounts unless there's a purchase in the account (https://www.pcgamer.com/ubisoft-clarifies-it-does-not-delete-inactive-accounts-that-have-purchased-games-after-its-policy-came-under-question/)

So a message to all New Qualitipedia users and admins, Do you guys agree with the term “If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing”? If not, then why. FrankInHD2010 (talk) 02:00, April 6, 2024 (UTC)

It's irrelevant if we do or don't tbh, the law is what it is and the law explicitly lets companies screw users in these manners. For that reason I draw the line that this discussion cannot go into advocacy.

That being said I think piracy is a scare-word that doesn't actually apply to unauthorized copying (you can't steal what was never a single hard thing, however the act of unauthorized copying is no brighter than dark grey at the best of times) and copyright is a runaway evil used to justify absolute garbage behavior and regressive practices like these. So morally I do agree and to an extent am probably even more radical. --raidarr (💬, admin) 08:38, April 6, 2024 (UTC)

Alright, also fun fact: In the Minecraft official website, the word "buy" in the "Buy Minecraft" button is now changed to "get", meaning "Get Minecraft" which increased the debate whatever or not buying and piracy are indeed owning/stealing.FrankInHD2010 (talk) 17:52, April 6, 2024 (UTC)

Am I the fastest growing account on Qualitipedia?

Because of my rapid growth on my friends list, am I the fastest of the growing accounts? ~ GoodGirls(20)07 - The fastest growing account in history of Quadlitipedia 17:11, April 16, 2024 (UTC)

maybe but don't count on it ToTheEdge (talk) 17:12, April 16, 2024 (UTC)

hmmm... - GoodGirls(20)07 - The fastest growing account in history of Quadlitipedia 17:13, April 16, 2024 (UTC)

Do good medias have some bad morals?

I wonder if some good medias have this, mainly because some bad medias do have some good morals. Sejdini3333 (talk) 01:41, April 17, 2024 (UTC) It depends on the specific media you're talking about, but some good media really have bad morals. YouTubePoop2000 (talk) 15:07, April 22, 2024 (UTC)

Should Comedy Central's Ren and Stimpy reboot have a negative or average page here?

I know since it's not officially released yet, but because recently some episodes got leaked and... They weren't that great and to make matters worse, they changed the theme song to a bad one, and as result, it received a mixed-to-negative reception from the fans. Sad to see Vanessa Coffey, Bob Jacques and Kelly Armstrong in this mess :(

Is okay this reboot should have its own page here in a negative or average view?

MariaJúlia1718 (talk) 16:34, May 4, 2024 (UTC)

I’d say wait till it officially releases. SquirtSquirtle (talk) 16:31, May 15, 2024 (UTC)

This. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 21:57, May 15, 2024 (UTC)

Are bad and good commercials allowed here?

I’m asking this because I’m tempted to make a page about the AT&T ad called What a Pro Wants, for those who don’t know, the ad is infamous for being overplayed on NHL and NBA broadcasts. And the commercial is universally hated. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 18:15, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

They are not in scope for the wiki I'm afraid. --raidarr (💬) 22:22, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

Well, if so, then why does this page exist? Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island "Still the Big One" Commercial TheMoonandEarth (talk) 22:33, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

If I remember right, the TV Shows Wikis used to have pages about commercials back on Miraheze, and also, wasn't there a Reception Wiki about bad commercials? I kinda thought commercials would be on-topic for this wiki because of those things I've just mentioned. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 23:47, May 5, 2024 (UTC)

I see what you mean, particularly SSK (it's otherwise possible we have pages on things that shouldn't be here). I've updated the rules to clarify yes, commercials are a go, but they need to be high profile in some way - ie something you can source, not a personal opinion on dumb commercials nobody really knows about. --raidarr (💬) 22:04, May 6, 2024 (UTC)

Loud House Seasonal Rot

so i've heard that season 7 just like season 3 has a mixed to positive reception and i was wondering if the good media side should be changed to season 1-3, 7-present and bad media be changed to seasons 4-6 or if season 7 is too mediocre to be changed - ToTheEdge (talk) 13:27, May 8, 2024 (UTC)

It hasn't won the crowd back yet, so, you should keep it like that. However, it is an improvement over the sixth season and especially the fifth, but not enough. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 14:01, May 8, 2024 (UTC)

so it's essentially spongebob season 8 quality got it ToTheEdge (talk) 14:04, May 8, 2024 (UTC)

Should the Doctor Who 60th Anniversary specials and the new season be on the category of Bad Media or the category of Good Media?

Despite their positive reactions from critics most reviews from audiences in RottenTomatoes are negative and because of this I think they should be put on the Bad Media category, even if the first 60th anniversary special was okay from my point of view. MandalorePrinny (talk) 19:34, May 11, 2024 (UTC)

I miss the old Qualitipedias

To be honest, I still miss the articles that used the words "SJW" and "Woke" even if I started to think that most people seem to bash certain media for having diversity rather than criticizing the story or the acting and other things of it (and I think most people call some media "Woke" just because they are bad and ignore that some actually good media also have diversity on them), Some people even say things like "Sesame Street was always woke" or "the original Star Trek series was woke" even if the term "Woke" was not invented until around the 2010s. after all a work having a diverse cast of characters or actors doesn't make it bad, there are some good works with diversity like Street Fighter and most fighting video game series (quite understandable since they are about fighting tournaments) and I have never seen anyone calling a fighting game series or any yuri anime "woke", If American History X came out recently somebody would call it "woke" because it is a film that shows that racism is bad but also has good character development (which is why I like it).

But I also thing that in the old Qualitipedias the moderators and administrators took some bad decisions and most people called them "right-wing" despite that some users were apolitical and RWW had articles criticizing right-wing websites like Conservapedia and InfoWars which deserve to be criticized since Coservapedia is nothing but Wikipedia with conservative bias and InfoWars is a fake news website. If the moderators were more responsible they couldn't have closed. MandalorePrinny (talk) 21:31, May 22, 2024 (UTC)

You have the right to think this, but harping on about SJW and Woke was just one of the many steps that was leading to being incompatible with Miraheze and promoting cyclic drama. --raidarr (💬) 15:42, May 23, 2024 (UTC)

Adding Websites and Hatedoms/Fandoms to the wiki

So as you know Rotten Websites Wiki and Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms archives are becoming lost, so we’re gonna put them on this wiki. BKBLUEY (talk) 16:02, May 29, 2024 (UTC)

Rotten Websites Wiki need not be here, as it still exists: https://rottenwebsites.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Rotten_Websites_Wiki. SquirtSquirtle (talk) 08:53, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Even if it did not exist, the full scope of Rotton Websites Wiki would not be an authorized expansion of the wiki. The Fandoms and Hatedoms content would result in immediate deletion or wiki closure. --raidarr (💬) 10:54, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Yea fair enough SquirtSquirtle (talk) 13:35, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I think your right… BKBLUEY (talk) 00:42, June 18, 2024 (UTC)

Could we make Robin a moderator (no not that one)?

I saw what he does on here and by the looks of it, he seems very responsible and mature enough for the job and has been here on this wiki for quite some time now so why not? Batboy234 (talk) 01:49, May 31, 2024 (UTC)

i concur he definitely seems to be a good choice ToTheEdge (talk) 02:13, May 31, 2024 (UTC)

Maybe. That depends on what other staff members think. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 04:40, May 31, 2024 (UTC)

well this aged like shit ToTheEdge (talk) 12:59, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Speaking of moderation, I'm still advocating for demotion of JalenHurtsFan1 because not only is he ChessGuy66 all along to evade his lock (which is lifted now, but still), but he manipulated me and the rest of the staff into making him part of it since he begged to be a staff member when CJ was still in charge of this place and he got what he wanted after CJ stepped down. After all, I feel kinda dirty promoting someone who would trick others into getting what they think they deserve. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 18:59, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

talk that one out with the rest of staff, I'll be abstaining from a vote or RFC if it comes to that, ChessGuy is my friend, although the shit he said about CJ and his vandalism on the wiki are not excusable, even if that's in the past ToTheEdge (talk) 19:06, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Well, by the looks of it, he does seem to have improved himself and learned from his past mistakes so I think it would be fair enough to at least give him a second chance. Batboy234 (talk) 19:07, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand he's gotten better in recent months and he's your friend, ToTheEdge, and I won't block him, but I do think that his mod status should still revoked since he never even earned it in the first place. Through honesty, anyhow. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 19:19, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

anyways let's end this debate for now and bring it to a proper channel if we want to continue, such as an RFC or vote, or even poll (if we get them working) ToTheEdge (talk) 19:26, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Okay. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 19:27, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

He got into modship under my watch, admittedly I was a skeptic but he's been doing fine at least by reception wiki standards. It's not fair to say he never earned it when multiple of us were looking at it and signed off. It's not like the thoughtless promotions of October 2023.

This page is probably the place to hold a vote/discussion unless full RfCs are built in more. --raidarr (💬) 09:28, October 25, 2024 (UTC)

Well, I think the same as you, Raidarr. We should give him a second chance.

I would defend him in a RfC or even in a poll. YouTubePoop2000 (talk) 18:39, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

New main page design

I think we need a new design for the main page. The new design for the main page will be based on the designs for the front page of the most reception wikis from 2021-2022 (including the banners of media and the featured article section), but will take an element from the 2022 design, which will be the "Recent Changes" section being able to be scrolled up and down. However, the new main page design will feature something that wasn't featured in any of the previous designs, which will be having its edges rounded. There will also be two banners (one that shows bad media, and one that shows good media). However, we need to work on the design in our sandbox, and the design will not be used until its appearance is complete. Should I work on the new main page design? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 18:27, June 1, 2024 (UTC)

idk i kinda like this one ToTheEdge (talk) 18:35, June 1, 2024 (UTC)

Well, I say if you're going to modify the main page for the wiki, make sure to add some more positive-media pages to the featured section. I've been noticing a trend on this wiki that a number of users tend to constantly look the dark/negative side of certain media, deliberately adding more negative media than positive media, and sometimes even banning redeeming qualities on pages (Granted, some of the media deserves it, but not always... particularly users do it nearly every time the negative work has offensive/disturbing material in it, regardless of whether it's condemning the practice, or clearly being treating it negatively, trying to convey a message to viewers without glorifying it.) Now, don't get me wrong, it's important to discuss the bad qualities of various works, and address when something goes to far, but there is such a thing as going too extreme with the practice. Also, is it really appropriate to feature some of these pages on the opening page? If newcomers open the wiki, and take a link to say, Sin Kids AU or Sonichu, it might turn some people away before they even see anything else, or give people the wrong idea and made them assume we're overly pessimistic about pop culture or media types. Not helping is the ratio of how many pages are featured: 40 negative pages compared to only 27 positive pages. Surely, you don't need to show all of those negative pages, at least add some more positives to even things out. (This is exactly why I try to avoid negative pages as often as possible, the others already have that covered.) You've seen some of the damage control I've been trying to do for various pages. What do you think of my suggestion? SpaceProtagonist (talk) 17:37, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea. It could help balance the number of pages featured on the front page and improve its appearance. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 17:44, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

I'm starting to work on it now! It's in its earliest stage for now, since it only has the two banners, each showing an equal ration of good and bad media, but I'll add in the rest of the features I mentioned at the start of the topic.

You can see it in my sandbox here. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 19:42, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

Sigh. I've recently been checking the edit history with some of the negative pages, and I've just got to say... "I rest my case!" Remember how a bunch of users added the NSFW and NSFL template to shows and episodes that aren't even targeted towards adults and there was a lot of abuse forcing the admins to delete both of the templates? Well now we've got a new, yet similar problem. A bunch of users are going around on various pages with less than ideal content, and then removing the redeeming qualities and claiming the page doesn't deserve them... regardless of whether the work in question actually supports it or not. It's getting out of control, and I feel this will just become Miraheze 2.0. If nothing's done about these edits soon, I'm quitting this wiki. I don't think it's even worth it if the users are going to be this picky and over-critical over everything. SpaceProtagonist (talk) 21:54, June 4, 2024 (UTC)

Same with me. If nothing is done about this, then screw it, I'll be outta here. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 22:01, June 4, 2024 (UTC)

The answer is simple: report anyone who is doing this to the people who actually have authority to do this (admins) so they can put their foot down. This was the case very recently with Rainbow Puppy. If people are letting it happen without reporting it to the people who can do something about it directly and clearly, they are adding to the issue. --raidarr (💬) 10:56, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

this was the moment Space decided to become a bureau ToTheEdge (talk) 12:59, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

I have made an alternate redesign that is more closely inspired by the original wikis; it may be found here. Tali64³ (talk) 21:25, June 2, 2024 (UTC)

I think that's a lot better than my scrapped main page redesign. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 19:02, June 3, 2024 (UTC)

Whilst I agree that those pages are better than the current, please optimise them for the fixed width of the Vector skin. It is causing a lot of horizontal scrolling. Original Authority (talk) 20:05, June 3, 2024 (UTC)

Alright. I put Tali's main page into a sandbox, but updated its appearance to optimize it for the fixed width of the Vector skin (via having both banners on top of each other rather than next to each other), and also added two more pages on each of the banners. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 15:24, June 10, 2024 (UTC)

The green assault is tacky imo but I suppose it will have to do and I will shrug and approve of the design should an admin wish to implement. --raidarr (💬) 10:57, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Um... what do you mean by "green assault"? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 13:53, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I mean the harsh contrasts of bright green, black on dark green, interspersed with white. I've never been a fan of this but this was an issue dating back to old qp and a criticism I'd have much more strongly for other living reception wikis. It's not enough for me to try and press a change or revision about. --raidarr (💬) 18:59, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

I might need to tweak Tali's main page design one more time in order to get rid of this issue. In order to deal with this problem, what colors should I use? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 19:14, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Question

Why did you guys revert my edit on Sonic Omens? Ezzan (talk) 17:51, June 5, 2024 (UTC)

Even if I wasn't an admin, can these implemented as rules?

Here they are:

1. No pun for idioms on pointer (such as, mammoth/dead elephant in the room), however, the hybrid one allowed (such as, let the elephant out of the room). Reason: Pun hardly happened on pointer.
2. Any less controversial media page should have redeeming quality (such as, Piranha 3DD). Reason: Some of them were unintentional and not dramatic enough.
3. Era in title shouldn't split (such as, season 28a or late 2018) and must whole (such as, season 28 or 2018). Reason: Most people are critical and cared about whole.

Oldwish12 (talk) 03:51, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

1. seems like it would be too hard to regulate; having idioms keeps pages vibrant in the same way as the custom headers do.
2. should already be the case; the page you mentioned doesn't explicitly forbid redeeming qualities, so any user can theoretically add them if they exist. There has been talk of allowing redeeming qualities on any page (even those that cover more controversial works); I do not know if that will go anywhere.
3. does not account for works that see a perceived decline/uptick in quality midseason; splitting pages this way makes sense in those cases. Raidarr suggested just doing away with separate pages for bad/good eras of works, which may be worth exploring as an option.

Tali64³ (talk) 04:33, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

1. Idioms are fine, just pun and wordplay that I thought to be an issue.
2. Ok.
3. I know but many people preferred to rant whole season or year.

Oldwish12 (talk) 08:23, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

1. Concur with Tali, unenforceable.
2. Concur with Tali.
3. Again, leaning towards Tali's statement for resolution. As for 'people preferred to rant', there's your problem: fundamentally we shouldn't be here for ranting, that's a recipe for bad articles.

--raidarr (💬) 09:28, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

Alright then. Oldwish12 (talk) 23:27, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

again i am against the idea of doing away with split pages for bad/good eras of shows, sometimes they become so awful that they feel like a parody of the show (looking at you post-crisis The Flash). plus since there's a 10 vid limit it's incredibly hard to reinforce pointers for both good seasons and bad seasons. back to the flash it hit major seasonal rot in the latter half of season 6 when the mirror monarch arc happened and season 7 was even worse and that shouldn't get its own page to talk about that? i personally think good/bad era pages should remain because of how awful/good they can get. i sent a message to raidarr about this a while back and if i'm interpreting it correctly, he agreed. ToTheEdge (talk) 15:36, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

The pages need to then be structured in a way where people aren't fighting about dates especially if there is issue about when a decline started, unless people can properly play the source game to draw a line. Disney is an example of what that may look like, ideally being split between 'modern' and 'classic' which aptly captures how most of the hate is divided without quibbling over dates. --raidarr (💬) 10:34, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

also generally there's a certain season that can be agreed upon to be when the decline started of certain shows (in terms of reception, know several people who think family guy declined after season 4) ToTheEdge (talk) 12:58, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Several individual people is great until they start disagreeing, as seems to happen regularly here. --raidarr (💬) 09:22, October 25, 2024 (UTC)

Skibidi toilet

i think it should be in forbidden content as someone is going to get angry no matter what perspective is used, for example if it is in bad media people who love the series will get angry, and if it is in good media people who hate it will get angry also i'm going to protect the pages in forbidden content to where only admins can create them - ToTheEdge (talk) 23:10, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

and to clarify i only protected pokemon sword and shield to reinforce the ban bc some people don't read the rules, i will rescind the protection if told to ToTheEdge (talk) 23:17, June 8, 2024 (UTC)

@ToTheEdge: It should be in bad media. No one with a brain likes it. Money12123 (contribs | sandbox) 01:11, June 9, 2024 (UTC)

Feel free, TTE. I moved the attempted page about it to blog in part for this reason but never updated the rules. --raidarr (💬) 10:33, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

My message to this Wiki

Instead of having this wiki that taught about the qualities of some medias, can we describe about the morals though? Sejdini3333 (talk) 00:37, June 11, 2024 (UTC)

That would be worse than the wiki trying to judge quality. --raidarr (💬) 10:31, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

Can I actually become an admin here?

I know I've been wanting to become admin for a while, but it feels like every user is becoming an admin except for me. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 23:07, June 11, 2024 (UTC)

If that is true then it will continue to be the case. I do not have confidence in you gaining administrative powers and I can't imagine a lot of people do either if they're being serious. --raidarr (💬) 10:31, June 15, 2024 (UTC)

I'm not an admin myself, but I'd say if you gradually improve and contribute to the wiki often over a year or two, and assuming this wiki remain open for a long while, I'm betting it'll eventually happen. SquirtSquirtle (talk) 18:54, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

(oops I think I accidentally replied to Raidarr) SquirtSquirtle (talk) 18:54, June 16, 2024 (UTC)

Should "Le Avventure di Gatto Evaristo" added as a bad show?

Should the show added as a bad show? It is a rip-off of Sylvester the Cat from Looney Tunes. MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 04:10, June 12, 2024 (UTC)

Yes. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 07:00, June 12, 2024 (UTC)

I made my sandbox page about that show. MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 20:34, June 12, 2024 (UTC)

Should Ready or Not (2023) be listed as a good, average or bad game?

Considering the game has good graphics, realistic and decent story, though the game does have it's flaws like the AI being unfair.

Crashbreaker (talk) 15:58, June 20, 2024 (UTC)

Star Wars: The Acolyte

If one were to make a page on the show (not me, though, because I never actually watched it), would the page lean towards the Good media side? Or the Bad media side? SlashcraftGaming (talk) 02:04, June 27, 2024 (UTC)

Well concidering the IMDB score, probably the Bad Side. Andrewgtv05 (talk) 02:12, June 27, 2024 (UTC)

idk man maybe it should be on good media ToTheEdge (talk) 02:41, June 27, 2024 (UTC)

I agree with it being on Bad Media. MandalorePrinny (talk) 03:06, July 1, 2024 (UTC)

No I disagree with bad media. Like I said before. The show was severely review bombed in Many sites including IMDb. These people are refusing to give this show a chance because of attitude towards the sequel trilogy. I want the toxic behavior from Star Wars fans to end now Wikiti98 (talk) 19:59, July 2, 2024 (UTC)

I would refrain from having this show have a page at all because it has been relentlessly review bombed and hated on for many weak and biased reasons. A lot of people are hating on this show just because of featuring a diverse cast as well as for reasons that are just plain homophobic and racist. There are there’s more episodes left in this show to air for the season too so we don’t know what will happen until the episodes actually air. Wikiti98 (talk) 20:20, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

So, in other words, it should be in Forbidden pages? SlashcraftGaming (talk) 20:49, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

not even remotely close to what was said ToTheEdge (talk) 21:09, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

To be honest, I really think we need to discuss this with the rest of the staff SlashcraftGaming (talk) 22:53, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

honestly i only jumped in to make a sarcastic remark, in response to both you and andrewgtv05 ToTheEdge (talk) 23:37, June 28, 2024 (UTC)

It will be put in bad media. Other YouTubers who are politically neutral (I say that because calling anyone who doesn't like diversity and inclusion in mediums who might have valid reasons racists and homophobic is pretty outlandish) criticized the series as well, including Penguinz0. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 05:47, July 2, 2024 (UTC)

Cj that is not for you the say. We can’t place the acolyte on bad media. First off, it has not released all of its episodes yet as it has three more to go with one airing tonight. Secondly, the fifth episode is showing a very interesting path for the show to take due to the insane lightsaber duel that occurred. Thirdly if you deem the show bad media and make a page here then it will become a site of toxicity for toxic Star Wars fans to gather around a bash it relentlessly. I am sick of the bad behavior from Star Wars fans lately and this has got to stop. It is the reason why I had pages from last Jedi and rise of skywalker removed here. Wikiti98 (talk) 19:55, July 2, 2024 (UTC)

Reflecting on the Electronic Arts page issue

For those interested I mean this and the following comments (which btw would ideally go here).

It's disappointing that it went downhill that badly. Discussion doesn't need to be tit for tat long argument, they do not need to "make us look like first graders fighting in a playground during fricking recess". It was a simple problem of how to title the page. Nobody handled this well. There was a bureaucrat who started it in a rough way, two more bureaucrats who tried to help but did not mediate, and two mods an an admin brawling in full public view with several users dropping in. This is what people laugh at. And it happened after big bad Raidarr and CJ stepped down from the highest level. So lets take some lessons out of this.

• Dates are subjective, full stop, rarely is there a perfect choice. Nobody brought a very clear argument why it has to be this date or that date. This is why I tried to set a precedence with Disney. What we can generally agree is that these companies have been acting worse in recent years and that is something you can set an uncontroversial title about, the dates can be messed about within the page but the title should not change often at all and it should not make 'declarations' (it all started June 2017 or whatever... no). If people disagree the company went downhill at all then at least that's cleaner to discuss. If you have to split pages for length or subject matter this would be the best attitude to have. This is something bureaucrats/staff need to think about between themselves (you're a team, teams work together) and set a clear policy on so this kind of problem does not repeat.
• Going on the above, staff should not be fighting each other like this. Bureaucrats need to make decisions clearly between each other. All three of you are on and have discord, this can easily be done in private channels which not even I or Original Authority need to see. In fact almost all of you are on discord. Staff should not be threatening users with blocks for disagreement. That's a major CJ L. Staff should not threaten to block each other. That's a major Edge L. If you want the issue to stop you have to approach the person, point out the problem and ensure it doesn't happen again, without it being buried in a mess. That is a Pacman L. Again, nobody handled this very well. Ideally the bureaucrats agree on a warning or whatever and approach CJ since he is an admin, and whoever else needs to be talked to. Anyone could do this if they back themselves up well however. A moderator shouldn't have to be the one to do this but they can if they must. I'm assuming you all would like this wiki to get better. Here is how you start.
• Lots of talking past each other. I don't even know what to say to fix this except please try to be open to each other's view I guess. This project is not going to work if you live in different realities to each other. But this is why there needs to be a staff policy on how pages should be based and that policy needs to be enforced in a neutral way. Then staff can point at the rules and go based on them, not their own personal standard of what they think should happen. Consistency is the only way you're going to win here.
• "Consensus ≠ Always right" - this is a wiki based on what people think is good or bad. It was subjective from the start. Consensus is the only thing you have when people can't even agree on the facts. The wiki should be presenting the points of what people think and from there the reader makes their own choice which side is valid. This is a remarkably FreezingTNT style take and anyone who's been here a while knows how that went. This is a wiki not your blog. If you want to go based on your own objective fact then make a dissenting blog with your argument and the wiki can reference it for points. This is why wikipedia is obsessed with sources. It shouldn't have to be that strict here but people need to be in the right direction at least.
• "i had no authority to try to resolve that nor threaten to block CJ, Raidarr was right to call me out and chances are if he was still bureaucrat i would have gotten demoted for that" (Edge) - staff shouldn't climb over each other but if nobody is trying to resolve the problem (the first comment didn't, your comment tried but with a shit attitude, Tali didn't resolve, in fact you were the only one for a good while who tried to make progress on the issue. That + you actually trying the whole time so far gives you job security in my book (for what it's worth) and I don't like seeing people demoted at first unless the promotion was an issue in the first place. What I would say is that everyone will hopefully learn their lesson from this. I don't think the bureaucrats have much right to even warn you here unless they accept responsibility for the above issues as well. Only if this becomes a constant issue and you, CJ, whomever fail to learn would demotion be reasonable. And to judge this the bureaucrats have to take charge in the first place.

Gents, you have signed up to run the place, it's time to actually run it.

--raidarr (💬) 13:50, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

i archived it because it ran on for so long ToTheEdge (talk) 16:16, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

deadass the only time i have found a perfect date is with No Man's Sky Next being when the game became good back in 2018 only because that same day is when the xb1 version launched ToTheEdge (talk) 12:53, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

also no i do not have discord, anybody going as ToTheEdge on your discord is an impersonator, my parents don't let me use discord ToTheEdge (talk) 16:18, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly; I had considered leaving a comment on why references are important but dismissed it as irrelevant to the conversation. Tali64³ (talk) 19:33, July 3, 2024 (UTC)

I think this wiki needs to be fixed

https://tiresomewikis.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Qualitipedia_and_the_Original_Reception_Wikis_(2019-present)#CJ.27s_New_Qualitipedia_.28Mid-November_2023-present.29~~~~ <- remove the nowikis

• So what exactly is the issue with the wiki now? Because some of those pointers are outdated.SpaceProtagonist (talk) 12:45, July 6, 2024 (UTC)
• First, fix your post. --raidarr (💬) 14:01, July 6, 2024 (UTC)

Chilly Willy

Chilly Willy is Walter Lantz's second most famous character, after Woody Woodpecker, I wanted to make a page for him but I don't know where to click to create a new page. Ricardao (talk) 22:47, July 7, 2024 (UTC)

that's for the character wikis not new qp - ToTheEdge (talk) 23:00, July 7, 2024 (UTC)

I want to create a page for Chilly Willy's shorts and not for the character. Ricardao (talk) 23:04, July 7, 2024 (UTC)

I want to make a page for the character's short series. Ricardao (talk) 03:12, July 8, 2024 (UTC)

Well, if the page is not ready yet, move it to a sandbox or blog and then when the page is ready, move it to a normal page. YouTubePoop2000 (talk) 11:13, July 9, 2024 (UTC)

Demonophobia doesn't deserve to have no page here

It's okay to have a page about Demonophobia because Sakuri being naked is played for horror, not for pornography. Plus, the game has an actual story, and Sakuri is only naked in one level.

Here are a few links we should put on the Bad Media sections of the wiki's main page.

|Read about A stand alone sequel to Space Jam that shoves in Warner Bros properties to the point of confusion.

• Sorry, but as per a rule by Original Authority, we can't add any new pages to be featured on the home page: good or bad. Unless you can change his their mind, I can't do anything to help.SpaceProtagonist (talk) 16:12, July 10, 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, about that, i only did it as a joke. CRW-on-wheels (talk) 14:15, August 22, 2024 (UTC)

Why can't I make pages anymore?

I tried to import a page onto here, but the red links don't show up anymore, is there any other way I can make pages? Batboy234 (talk) 14:31, July 21, 2024 (UTC)

This also happen to me, the only way to do page i guess is to get to the button Edit a Page, i also can't make any category now. Pacman64fanj (talk) 14:46, July 21, 2024 (UTC)

oh mediawiki is messed up for everyone, that's a relief ToTheEdge (talk) 17:25, July 21, 2024 (UTC)

It's because of the RemoveRedlinks extension that is installed. Bongo Cat (talk) 02:45, July 27, 2024 (UTC)

Well, can someone please remove it? With the way my sandbox is, I copy paste when I finish a page in my sandbox, and then I have to search the title up, and the create the page is black, and if it stays like this, then I may never create a page ever again.--TheMoonandEarth (talk) 02:57, July 27, 2024 (UTC)

How we can remove it, if it's even possible ? Pacman64fanj (talk) 21:03, July 28 2024 (UTC)

Well Pac, since you are a bureau, you can use ManageWiki, try searching for removeredlinks.--TheMoonandEarth (talk) 21:45, July 28, 2024 (UTC)

Well, i did find it in the admin link but it seem there is no button for removing it, or i didn't looked well at all. Pacman64fanj (talk) 22:13, July 28 2024 (UTC)

Can I see a screenshot?--TheMoonandEarth (talk) 22:15, July 28, 2024 (UTC)

Here it is: Pacman64fanj (talk) 22:19, July 28 2024 (UTC)

The new user pages

Hey, I’m just asking, who changed the user page style? The new style doesn’t look good. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 02:15, July 24, 2024 (UTC)

The change in style is due to the SocialProfile extension being replaced with an extension custom-developed by Original Authority; if you have any suggestions for how to make the user pages look better, do let him know. Tali64³ (talk) 02:35, July 24, 2024 (UTC)

Same. The new user style doesn't look good at all. And now all of the friend list are gone. It makes it look like Fandom, and not in a good way. It's also pretty outdated in a bad way. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 08:37, July 25, 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't really look outdated, seems more inline with OOUI/Wikimedia styles. I also don't see why a wiki needs a friends list in the first place lol. Bongo Cat (talk) 02:41, July 27, 2024 (UTC)

i mean to be fair this is a bit more of a social wiki than most ToTheEdge (talk) 12:48, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

It seems the profile avatars aren't working properly. If you click on my user page, you can see I uploaded one, but if you look at my comments, it doesn't appear there (it's just a default, blank one). FullInterTurn (talk) 19:41, July 28, 2024 (UTC)

Your user profile avatar appears to be displaying fine for me; perhaps it was just a caching issue. Tali64³ (talk) 20:12, July 28, 2024 (UTC)

What I meant is that my pfp doesn't appear as the one I uploaded in the comment section (see my comment in this page for an example of what I mean). FullInterTurn (talk) 21:42, July 28, 2024 (UTC)

That's because the Comments extension uses SocialProfile to display avatars; it does not support UserProfile. Tali64³ (talk) 21:52, July 28, 2024 (UTC)

I know this is probably a stupid question but is there a guide on how to make pages? Kirbo (talk) 06:31, July 29, 2024 (UTC) ==

i dont know how to make pages and i can't find anything online. I also scanned this wiki and don't seem to find anything. Could anyone give me a simple guide?Kirbo (talk) 06:31, July 29, 2024 (UTC)</> <-

How come I can't upload a pfp?

Tried to add my profile picture and it doesn't work... why? --Blackstar0444 (talk) 18:55, August 10, 2024 (UTC)

Edit: nvm its working now Blackstar0444 (talk) 08:04, August 14, 2024 (UTC)

Why do I have to wait for my rename?

I just requested a rename on this service and I’m asking that why can’t I just rename myself instead of waiting? TheMoonandEarth (talk) 13:41, August 11, 2024 (UTC)

• sigh* it’s been almost a week and I’m still not renamed? TheMoonandEarth (talk) 01:03, August 18, 2024 (UTC)

  Original Authority, can you please rename me already? It’s been weeks since I requested my rename and I haven’t been renamed yet. TheMoonandEarth (talk) 21:28, August 29, 2024 (UTC)

two things

number one: the amount of pages copied from old QP is getting out of hand, these pages need to be checked for bias, if this continues New QP which was supposed to fix these issues will end up becoming old QP, like i had to go and fix the page for battlefield hardline, CJ had a point about that rule, although it could have been done better, number 2: can somebody please restore the old message boards, it was a stupid change to get rid of them, that's it - ToTheEdge (talk) 13:23, August 14, 2024 (UTC)

I have 2 questions

1st question: Is this site really reliable, if yes then, how did they review them?

2nd question: Are good/featured articles limit or there's more of it? Sejdini3333 (talk) 17:43, August 22, 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean by "are good/featured articles limit or there's more of it"? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 18:42, August 22, 2024 (UTC)

Will there be pages that land on a "Feature articles" or "Good articles" in the future? (like if a new updates about a page that is well-written now) Sejdini3333 (talk) 19:21, August 22, 2024 (UTC)

Rename Category:Nintendo Wii games

A rename for Category:Nintendo Wii games would be beneficial because the name of the category is confusing, perhaps a rename to First-party Wii Games or 1st party Wii games could be a good rename. Bongo Cat (talk) 00:10, August 23, 2024 (UTC)

i think it's very clear, it's just games for the nintendo wii, although i could understand removing the "nintendo" from it as i can see where that would be confusing, even if it's not for me ToTheEdge (talk) 01:40, August 24, 2024 (UTC)

About Roblox (mid 2016-present)

I have two things that (in my opinion) should be changed about this article, and considering that they are considerably large changes, I assumed it would be best to consult with the community first to see their opinions on them.

Change Roblox's "Bad" Era

I believe that Roblox really didn't turn bad until late-2019 with the end of Builders Club and the introduction of Live-Ops (aka Developer Events) that replaced the traditional events, and if we want to play devils advocate, the entirety of 2021 when they went completely corporate following them going public and completely disregarded the community. Did Roblox make bad choices from 2016-2019/2020? Certainly, but they weren't inherently with malicious intent, at least until 2021.

• Filtering Enabled: Filtering enabled (FE) was something that was absolutely and it was really a net positive regardless of what you think. Without FE, a single exploiter could modify the entire server for every single player (destroy the map, add scripts, etc.), however with FE, changes to the server on the client-side stays on the client-side. It broke every old game, but exploiters would have broken them anyways, so there was really no difference.
• Tix Removal: The big issue is that Tix is a net-negative because people started making bots to gain Tix to exchange to Robux since Tix is infinite, and with the increase of botted games, and ultimately in the long-term if you remove the exchange, there was no need for it in the perspective of developers. It was great for customization but obviously greedy (yet genius) people had to ruin another thing...
• Guest Accounts: Roblox Guests were removed and it was a good thing. Guest accounts weren't really good for Roblox both community-wise and moderation-wise. Guest accounts being disposable meant that guests could exploit without getting caught, and also lowered the Roblox account numbers because some people wouldn't sign-up but just use guest accounts, despite how limited they are.
• Shovelware: Shovelware games on Roblox is actually innovative. There are multiple good games that are listed as shovelware, but are actually pretty decent. From a developers prospective, it makes them money, and from the players perspective, it's fun. It is a win-win and being seen as a negative quality is really just frivolous and such a nitpick.

Removal Of LuoBu

To blame Roblox for the issues of Chinese law is really just nitpicky, and quite frankly, I believe it should be removed, or at the very least, converted into a subpage. Roblox wants to expand its business into the Chinese market and as such, has to abide by Chinese law. It's like complaining about the DSA as an American citizen because it violates free speech, free trade or the ability for a company to do what the fuck it wants to do; it's a foreign law that is required to be enforced if the company wants to engage in business in that country, and that is the same case with LuoBu.

So, those are the two issues I have with the article currently, please leave your thoughts in your replies or something. Bongo Cat (talk) 23:26, August 23, 2024 (UTC)

good points ToTheEdge (talk) 01:41, August 24, 2024 (UTC)

Are sketches allowed on this wiki

Specifically, sketches from TV series like SNL, MAD, or Robot Chicken. () 00:41, August 26, 2024 (UTC)

that image is more cursed than that one image of the cast of family guy as sonic characters ToTheEdge (talk) 13:03, August 26, 2024 (UTC)

its squidward's brother octopusdore ThatWiteCat (talk) 20:31, August 26, 2024 (UTC)

Also which image are you referring to? ThatWiteCat (talk) 20:31, August 29, 2024 (UTC)

Disney Live Action Remakes

i don't get why they keep getting put into bad media when they received mixed reception from both critics and audiences, they go into average for that not bad media - ToTheEdge (talk) 15:08, August 28, 2024 (UTC)

Vidlii (2022-Present)

It used to be a YouTube revival site until it was sold to a Russian company, and now the moderation on that site is terrible and now criminals are using the site to upload criminal acts on the site.

Could I make a page about it since it's similar to YouTube. Blastoise (talk) 22:05, August 29, 2024 (UTC)

The "Mixed Qualities" sections

I'm not sure if many are aware, but there's this weird trend of adding a section called "Mixed Qualities" to pages which is completely unnecessary because it serves just about the exact same purpose as "Bad Qualities", and no member of this wiki's staff even approved of this idea, at least to my knowledge. Not to mention that it's not even in the guidelines of how pages are to be made here. This problem even persisted on the Characters Wikis on Miraheze for a while until it was later resolved. I also ask this question: who came up with the idea of adding a "Mixed Qualities" section to pages in the first place? Whoever thought of the idea, please respond to this topic. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 18:49, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

While I didn’t start the Mixed qualities thing, I honestly feel like it should stay it points out stuff in something that are considered a mixed bag, it’s also innovative for the wiki, because lacking innovation invites staleness. JalenHurtsFan1 (talk) 18:56, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

I'm all for innovation of this wiki (as long as it works), but we really don't need a section called "Mixed Qualities" because since it contains pointers that are criticized, which can already be added to the "Why It Sucks" or "Bad Qualities" sections, mixed or not. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 19:20, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

The idea behind a "Mixed Qualities" section should be to list the qualities of a product that are either extremely polarizing or mediocre/average; I concur that it should not be used for the shortcomings of a product. However, given the way the wiki is currently functioning, determining if a pointer is polarizing is very difficult if not outright impossible. To make the concept of a section listing average qualities work without bias, either we restrict new page creation to people that have not consumed the product that they are writing about or we make sourcing an integral part of the wiki; I imagine that the community would vastly prefer the latter (it also has the benefit of ensuring that this wiki's content is unbiased if done properly). Tali64³ (talk) 19:40, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

well that's going to be a nightmare for me, i have a school laptop which as you can imagine blocks damn near every reliable source ToTheEdge (talk) 19:55, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid there's nothing that can be done to circumvent that; the only thing I can suggest is asking for a personal device if your parents will allow it. For the majority of users that aren't beholden to school-imposed restrictions, providing sources for claims made in the wiki's content will improve its reliability significantly and adds an easy way to verify statements. Tali64³ (talk) 20:03, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

yeah i'm not going to be doing that just for qualitipedia of all places, i really just spend time screwing around on the wiki so that's gonna be one thing that i won't be doing for a while ToTheEdge (talk) 20:29, September 6, 2024 (UTC)

Pages that need to be deleted

Hi. These pages have been marked for deletion for days and maybe weeks and have not been touched;

• Janna x Marco (vandalism)
• Darkstalkers 3 (not a page but a comment)
• Color TV-Game (unfinished)
• Category: Flims featured on Wha Happun? (typo category)

Can an available admin delete those pages? I suppose they don't check the Candidates for deletion category page. Dratuna (talk) 05:46, September 7, 2024 (UTC)

Is DeviantArt allowed ?

They said that websites are allowed, right ? Should I copy-paste that page from WayBack Machine ? KENNY STEWART 6284 (talk) 05:00, September 14, 2024 (UTC)

"Pages about stuff outside of video games, shows, movies and books: Against the Content Policy. Websites are allowed, as long they follow the type of content this wiki focuses, such as YouTube and DKOldies. If it's stuff like Twitter then it's forbidden."

DeviantArt does not qualify to be this on wiki. That's why there's no Facebook, X, etc on this wiki.Dratuna (talk) 05:29, September 14, 2024 (UTC)

Black Myth: Wukong (2024)

Black Myth: Wukong is a 2024 game. Since there are dramas surrounding the game, its creators, and its fandom (harassment and doxxing have been used against critics of the game), I'm not sure if it is a good choice to include the game in this wiki. NeitherBadNorGood (talk) 01:04, September 16, 2024 (UTC)

i'd say it's fit to be on here considering the vast majority of people probably don't know the wiki exists ToTheEdge (talk) 01:28, September 16, 2024 (UTC)

The game has universal acclaim so it can be added with a positive page. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 20:52, October 9, 2024 (UTC)

File deletion request

Please delete this file, as I uploaded a transparent png version of the file. https://newqualitipedia.telepedia.net/wiki/File:OriginalXbox.jpg CZofficial (talk) 12:12, October 8, 2024 (UTC)

The "AutoBot Qualities" and "Decepticon Qualities" headings in Transformers pages

Okay, so everyone remembers the infamous "Autobot/Decepticon Qualities" headings in various Transformers pages back when the Reception Wikis were still on Miraheze, right? And I'm also sure a lot of people found those particular headings to be extremely obnoxious and repetitive since they were used on almost every single Transformers page to exist. Well, I've got some bad news for those who remember: that issue is back on New Qualitipedia because, not unlike the old QP, users are still adding those headings to those pages here. While I can accept custom headings being used on all pages on NQP (for now), the "AutoBot Qualities" and "Decepticon Qualities" need to be banned because they're seriously overused to the point that they shouldn't be allowed anymore because of how much controversy they caused back on Miraheze. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 20:45, October 9, 2024 (UTC)

Hello? Is anyone here? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 18:36, October 10, 2024 (UTC)

I guess I'm the only one here right now. I was asking myself "Can't they come up with ANYTHING more original?" Often times I come up with more creative C.H's for my articles. CarltheToonMan42 (talk) 18:39, October 10, 2024 (UTC)

ChessGuy Unblock

i'm going to give him a second chance per what raidarr said: https://newqualitipedia.telepedia.net/wiki/User_talk:Raidarr#you're_not_going_to_like_this - ToTheEdge (talk) 21:18, October 13, 2024 (UTC)

Should "Lu & the Bally Bunch" be on here?

I'm curious, but if "Lu & the Bally Bunch" is added on here, should it be a good or bad quality show? And give me a few reasons why. CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 17:22, October 16, 2024 (UTC)

I can’t delete pages

Despite being a mod, when I try deleting a page it says the action is harmful. JalenHurtsFan1 (talk) 20:53, October 17, 2024 (UTC)

try clearing your cache ToTheEdge (talk) 20:56, October 17, 2024 (UTC)

cc @Tali64³ as the abuse filter guru who can probably find what went wrong here. --raidarr (💬) 00:21, October 18, 2024 (UTC)

For Chromium browsers, go to settings, and on the left one Privacy and security, click delete browsing data, choose a time range, such as last 24 hours, last 7 days and/or all time, select the types of information you want to remove, and click "Clear data". Nicholas05 (talk) 01:49, October 18, 2024 (UTC)

Abuse filter is not something related to user cache, this would be some sort of action taken user side which runs against how the abuse filter is designed. Clearing browsing data would apply for issues like a login problem. --raidarr (💬) 00:39, October 19, 2024 (UTC)

The issue is a global filter designed to prevent users from editing user pages that are not their own. Pinging @Original Authority to resolve this issue, as I cannot do anything about it. Tali64³ (talk) 00:52, October 19, 2024 (UTC)

Should Plankton: The Movie and Sandy's Country Christmas have positive articles here?

Hi, I am SquidTron C and I know that Plankton: The Movie and the SpongeBob SquarePants season 14 episode Sandy's Country Christmas aren't officially released yet but is it okay that they have positive articles here. Plankton: The Movie was leaked on 4Chan two months ago and most of the fans of the series enjoyed it and considered it to be a massive improvement over Saving Bikini Bottom: The Sandy Cheeks Movie. Sandy's Country Christmas was officially released on The Best 300 Episodes Ever and Another 100 Episodes DVDs as I saw several harsh critics of season 14 actually enjoy that episode for its return of stop-motion animation and being a lot more promising than that Sandy movie so it it okay that they have positive articles here? SquidTron C (talk) 03:54, October 22, 2024 (UTC)

Maybe they can still have positive articles, but you still need to wait for the works to officially release to the public, as you never know whether the mass public will have a different opinion from the small minority that saw the film/special. I'm not saying no, just... not right now.SpaceProtagonist (talk) 12:51, October 22, 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response but I got it. I will just wait than. --SquidTron C (talk) 03:31, October 28, 2024 (UTC)

Can I finally become admin here??

I've asked this before, and I already feel like I would be a great administrator here. I have made ton of edits on this wiki. I even made a page of The Super Mario Bros. Movie and the Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken (the page feels like a really amazing preview of why I would be an admin). Additionally, I really want to be an administrator on the sites. I do feel like I'm a moderator to the point where I'm really upset that I'm not (and maybe a little angry). My edits do feel similar to an admin's edits. It's probably time I be promoted to something here. And it seems like every user is becoming something (especially on the LCW, where a lot of users are getting promoted like autoconfirmed users), while I have not been being an admin at all. I'm also tired of saying I want to be an admin. Also there is a lot of pages I want to restore. Even on the Old Qualitipedia sites I even helped with the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 page. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 05:48, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Raidarr has said numerous times, and i will repeat it as many times as it takes: No ToTheEdge (talk) 12:20, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

I am also tired of you saying you want admin. Now that we agree, lets take the easy and realistic solution of forgetting about it. Or maybe we really just want angry brats who want to throw the rules out the window become staff, idk, not my choice anymore. --raidarr (💬) 12:34, October 24, 2024 (UTC)

Should SMG4 (2011-2017) & SMG4 (2018-present) be on here?

I feel like...SMG4 used to be golden from the early to mid 2010's (2011-2017). SMG4's decline started minorly in mid 2017 with the series getting a YouTube Video Policy, meaning that they can't make more R*t*rded64 videos, with all pre-existing ones renamed to just R64, Meggy's introduction, other miniseries & spin-offs like Sonic the Derphog, The Wacky Wario Bros. and Guards N' R*t*rds were less focused on (with the latter two at one point having moved to it's short lived spin-off channel, TheAwesomeMario), plus other characters such as X, FM, the re-color Marios, Sonic, SMG3, Chris and Swagmaster (the latter three formerly) started to lose spotlights over Meggy, Shroomy (who was the first OC character created), Fishy Boopkins and Bob as Meggy was originally intended to be a one-timer character or something, only to come back a few videos later due to popularity (which would later become a trend, where a new character debuts in a video, and then would come back a few weekends later by demand) and SMG4 and Kevin felt they're cast were boys only anyway, and they wanted a female character to balance it out since other female characters like Peach, Laa-Laa, Po, Toadette and The Crazy Raisin Lady were only portrayed as joke characters. Although, the series is still going strong, at least until the late 2010's (2018-present) is where things start to go permanent. Firstly, after TheAwesomeMario's last video, Boopkins and Bob: The New Years Resolution, there hasn't been a new video since then, that even SMG4 doesn't know why he hasn't touched it in years, probably because he was too busy on the main channel, his gaming channel (which also started to decline) and his new original animation company, Glitch Productions. And while the first five episodes of 2018 were still good and still feel like classics, Doki Doki Mario Club was when the real major decline just begun. The music list credits (which have been used since late 2016) got replaced by membership perks, and it was when Saiko made her debut, begining the trend of adding too many new OC characters, especially females, and they're popularity stole spotlights from even more characters, including ones who were part of the main cast since the beginning like Bowser, Toad and the Wario Bros. have been sidelined or demoted to minor roles, the humor got more and more dialed down as the series declined due to YouTube's policy kept getting worse thanks to SMG4 now becoming a vertified channel, now with the F, S, and now recently the B words (the ones that rhyme with "itch") and "Ass" got censored, slowly turning SMG4 into a show for younger teens and kids, rather than a show for adults. It got even worse in later years with SMG4, SMG3, Bob and Boopkins getting turned into OC's, and Peach's Castle getting destroyed, having moved to a new original home. As of today, there are no signs of SMG4 going back to how he used to be before....and it's probably sticking like that.

2018-present can be allowed here because wretched youtubers wiki does not exist anymore, but 2011-2017 needs to be brought up on amazing youtubers wiki since he has a page there also the seasonal rot is debatable, like 2018-2021 were all very solid years containing some great videos and also SMG4's best arcs with Genesis and Revelations. (P.S. you forgot to sign and please do not use the add topic button, manually add your topic) - ToTheEdge (talk) 17:05, October 30, 2024 (UTC)

your argument revolves heavily around censorship as opposed to the humor, which has practically left the series with the terrible puzzlevision arc (the biggest shark jump i have ever seen) ToTheEdge (talk) 17:07, October 30, 2024 (UTC)

Yeah. Although....I do not know how to....

I'm just learning here. CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 18:36, October 30, 2024 (UTC)

for adding topics, just hit edit source and scroll all the way down and to sign just go ~~~~, if you hit the reply button it will automatically sign ToTheEdge (talk) 20:46, October 30, 2024 (UTC)

Pages about people like SMG4 would be questionable at best in relation to Telepedia Content Policy and the scope of this wiki, where pages about individuals (SMG4 imo being included in this) is singled out as something not in scope for this wiki. Not to argue about any other aspect where the content no longer suits your/a group of viewer's tastes as compared to being actually terrible with credible sources that can make a page here.. --raidarr (💬) 21:00, October 30, 2024 (UTC)

i would say it does fit within scope as the web series is also named SMG4 ToTheEdge (talk) 21:39, October 30, 2024 (UTC)

I know, the series is what I'm talking about. CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 22:22, November 2, 2024 (UTC)

The web series itself is probably fine. Though there is a youtube wiki which may be more appropriate. --raidarr (💬) 23:27, November 2, 2024 (UTC)

He already has a page on Amazing YouTubers Wiki. A page that it is critical of his content from 2018 is fine, but there is no need for a pre-2018 page. Money12123 (contribs | sandbox) 20:19, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

So what exactly are you guys saying, should I make a page for 2011-2017 SMG4 & 2018-present SMG4 or not? CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 21:43, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

New Dragon Age

i hate to see it but with these audience reviews... ouch, it looks like it's going into bad media... here's hoping they don't shut down BioWare for this - ToTheEdge (talk) 17:08, November 1, 2024 (UTC)

but you know what, from gameplay footage, the game looks pretty good, so i don't really care ToTheEdge (talk) 17:10, November 1, 2024 (UTC)

These audience reviews were likely influenced by grifters who claim that everything is woke. Of course the audience score is not going to be trustworthy. All I can say from playing it is that it's more of the same from Inquisition but more action heavy. Drag0n (talk) 00:50, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

or maybe it could just have a bad story, the gameplay looks great but i've heard nothing good about the story from most people who've played ToTheEdge (talk) 01:48, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

The story was nothing special. The only that was good about the plot was the opening. Other than that, everything is more or less the same. Drag0n (talk) 04:02, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

yeah and that's why it's getting slammed, an RPG with a bad or nothing-special story is kind of a big detractor ToTheEdge (talk) 15:53, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

But still, don’t think it’s worth a page until I complete it. Drag0n (talk) 15:59, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

I'm back (yes, really).

And dismissing critcism as just anti-woke grifting is a fallacy that can be easily disregarded. I suggest to dive deep into that critique rather than taking a superficial look and make a claim without knowing nothing.

I'm going to make a blog to announce my return. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 15:44, November 7, 2024 (UTC)

ayyyyyyyyy never thought i'd say this but great to have you back, and i completely agree with you here, i do not think we should go too hard on it, the gameplay is solid from videos also maybe you can help me convince Jalen that EA always sucked (yes i'm on your side with this one now) ToTheEdge (talk) 15:47, November 7, 2024 (UTC)

Lu & the Bally Bunch

I know I said this before, but despite having 8.1 stars on IMDB, if the show has a page on here, I think it should be more of a Good/Bad Qualities kind of show...why I said this, I think there's a lot of flaws the show has, such as the bugs (especially Lu) crying and sometimes getting into arguments, with no punishment or callouts...and stuff..And I hope I got this right this time.CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 18:06, November 5, 2024 (UTC)

@CartoonCartoons64: Have any critics or YouTubers had similar opinions? Money12123 (contribs | sandbox) 20:17, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

Would this count?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5OPtHG8xH0 CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 22:41, November 6, 2024 (UTC)

@CartoonCartoons64: Not a review and oddly specific. Money12123 (contribs | sandbox) 20:29, November 7, 2024 (UTC)

Making another Sandbox

How do I make another Sandbox? CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 02:25, November 9, 2024 (UTC)

My SMG4 page got deleted

It took me all night to get it finished. And it took me forever to get the bad qualities to reach more than the good qualities. Now where am I gonna put it at? CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 18:09, November 10, 2024 (UTC)

Was it a power outage or you don't have enough battery for you to save your sandbox.

If yes then, well I feel bad for you though, but have you written these as your own opinion?

Because many of the reception wikis aren't that of reliable.

But unless if I see something that gives out some negative effects to the children they're watching, since SMG4 is meant to be made for most teens & adults (e.g. coarse languages, cartoonish nudity)

Excuse me for my grammar though, I still need to learn English throughout my years. Sejdini3333 (talk) 22:57, November 13, 2024 (UTC)

That's okay. And thanks for the sympathy. Well, my page for the 2018-present era is still okay. It's just moved to a blog. I also put it over at Mixed Receptions TV Shows wiki just in case. The blog gets taken down, too. But now, I'm planning on doing an article for the classic era (2011-2017). However, I don't know if I'll put it as a sandbox and publish because then I'll get into the same trouble with the others again...either that or should I put it in a blog or move it to the Mixed Receptions TV Shows wiki in case if the blog version gets taken down. What do you think? ~~~~ CartoonCartoons64 (talk) 16:51, November 14, 2024 (UTC)

Is this a forum for those who want to create cartoon/show/games?

Hello, just wondering. Can this be used as an advice on how to make better show? Big2278US (talk) 00:10, November 13, 2024 (UTC)

The purpose of New Qualitipedia is to explain why certain products are badly- or well- received, which implies advice on creating quality media. Tali64³ (talk) 02:10, November 13, 2024 (UTC)

Is this yes or no? Big2278US (talk) 02:51, November 13, 2024 (UTC)