Talk:Qualitipedia Wiki/Archive 2

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The wiki is gone.

This is recent, but the wiki has been getting worse since the rule that prohibits copying and pasting pages from the original QP. Brazilian User (talk) 16:16, November 24, 2023 (UTC)

Just for the record the rule has been changed for a few days now, see Qualitipedia:Rules. Imports come with conditions. --Raidarr (talk) 22:10, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

I need to edit the "Nintendo" page to remove Pik-min W.I.P.

This information about this great fan game on Roblox became misleading, that is, Nintendo didn't know about this fan game until natta3 told Nintendo DMCA about this fan game, which is using IP, animations taken from Pikmin 4, sound effects and music, this made Pikmin fans they were furious with nataa3 to the point of trying to harass them, and at the same time they were sad that the fan game was deleted, it wasn't blocked/deleted once, but twice, but wait, it wasn't blocked forever, this fan game has been back since November 4th, if anyone wants to play this Pikmin fan game, here is the link (unfortunately this fan game drastically lost its players, before the lockdown and second lockdown, it had an impressive more than 3 thousand players, and now it has an average of between measly 150 and 30 players):

https://ro.blox.com/Ebh5?pid=share&is_retargeting=true&af_dp=roblox%3A%2F%2Fnavigation%2Fgame_details%3FgameId%3D5197115204&af_web_dp=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.roblox.com%2Fgames%2F15083001366 Roger (talk) 00:31, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

What perspective should NHL 24 be written from?

Let’s discuss. ChessGuy66 (talk) 06:01, November 25, 2023 (UTC) Is someone gonna answer?--ChessGuy66 (talk) 22:26, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

If it's basically the same thing year after year I would suggest a page be written about all of them in one go, with sections to cover what difference if any exists from year to year. It's shoveled out enough that a section per game probably wouldn't be long to cover any enhancements or regressions and mention any noteworthy reviews.

Is this how the wiki usually works, no, but it's about time it worked a little differently so I'd strongly support anyone who gave it a try. Save us the effort of finding a half dozen nitpicks that repeat last year's nitpicks. --Raidarr (talk) 22:38, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

I mean if the reception is bad, (which I don’t think it is) it has to be on bad media, and I don’t want it on bad media! ChessGuy66 (talk) 22:41, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

It can be written in a balanced way. I know this is a tricky concept to reception wikis but even if the reception is bad your only 'job' is to explain why people think that way first, and then you can offer the counter arguments and high points. Or vice versa. Just give it the research. --Raidarr (talk) 22:48, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

Well, can somebody please do a research of what people think of the game please? ChessGuy66 (talk) 01:18, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

So…

What’s with all the attention about me? Usually people have been (mainly Robin) have been thanking me with most of my edits, I mean, I’m not complaining or anything and the thank you's are very appreciated but come on guys, it’s not that big of a deal.

Batboy234 (Batboy234) 14:42, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

I can't speak for others but I have given you autopatrolled because you make consistently helpful, well-formatted edits and make staff's job easier. --Raidarr (talk) 11:56, November 25, 2023 (UTC)

CJWorld removed YandereDev

I was copying and pasting into the old Crappy Games Wiki, a day later, CJ deleted that page just because that page talks about the person and has to be written on the Rotten Website Wiki, even though there is a page that talks about the person and is featured on New Qualitypedia, Dhar Maan. Roger (talk) 14:42, November 22, 2023 (UTC)

I will look over the Dhar Mann page, it is not quite in scope and I may remove it. YandereDev is not in scope either. This wiki should not have pages covering peoply. However there is a very important difference which is why I'm in no rush about the Dhar Mann page: it is specifically about the video series and goes a long way not to talk about the person per se. The YandereDev page was written completely to describe the person and not a creation, which is why it was removed. If you want to go to the bootleg wiki slated for deletion described below it is your choice. --Raidarr (talk) 09:36, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

There's quite a bit of pages of Dhar's series now. Blastoise (talk) 12:01, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

Just go to us, to The Super Megamedia Reception Wiki! Szczypak 64 12:51, November 26 2023 (GMT+2)

I have a stupid idea, create the "Google" page

It seems that Google is getting a bad reputation for several reasons, like violate horribly European Union Law, pay billions to Samsung to turn mobile a generic Android system just because of the Galaxy Store, created Google Stadia, the worst console in history, Google Play is nothing more than a shovelware store, YouTube and the apocalypse of AddBlocker and artificially slowing video loading in Firefox, and more things. Roger (talk) 01:28, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

The only relevant parts about Google in what you listed are the Play Store (barely) and Stadia. The rest are out of scope and therefore so is Google as a whole. --Raidarr (talk) 09:25, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

Should Yo! Noid on NES be written on a positive or negative page?

I want to know if i should write a page about Yo! Noid in a positive or negative page since i enjoy that game but the reception seem to be negative, and if so, should we write it as average or terrible ? Pacman64fanj (talk) 10:28, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

If the reception is negative then explaining why comes first. Enjoyable qualities can get their due below and you can help with that I'm sure. What I'd avoid either way is making it particularly biased one way or another since that is a key thing I'd like to see change around here: let people know what is thought of it and why. --Raidarr (talk) 10:40, November 27, 2023 (UTC)

I can’t log in

This is ChessGuy66, I’m trying to log in, but it doesn’t let me because of “session hijacking” how do I fix this? 157.52.82.38 16:15, November 28, 2023 (UTC)

OA is working on it, I would suggest purging your browser cookies in the meantime - at least for telepedia.net to ensure it is not confused. --Raidarr (talk) 22:33, November 28, 2023 (UTC)

The prophecy has been deciphered

The line from one of the previous discussions: "I think everyone needs to just get along and stop being so—frankly—immature, this behaviour is reminiscent of the original Qualitipedia and if it continues I will just close the wiki." I think it means everyone will stop being childish and grow up and keep their articles. And that part means that every single reception wiki they ever made will be undone. It will be as if anybody gives up on them in the first place! -173.238.230.221

...could you decipher this for me, because it makes less sense than the original sentence. I don't mean to be snide, I'm just confused. Also: in the future, please sign with ~~~~. --Raidarr (talk) 17:45, November 29, 2023 (UTC)

I think sign with 173.238.230.221 17:43, November 30, 2023 (UTC) also means, it will be intended.

How could you not have understood what OA said about this wiki and saying he'll shut it down if its immaturity will continue? When he said and I said quote "I think everyone needs to just get along and stop being so—frankly—immature, this behaviour is reminiscent of the original Qualitipedia and if it continues I will just close the wiki.", it means that this new Qualitipedia is just as immature as the old version and he'll close it unless it starts getting its shit together, so I'm not sure how you didn't understand what he meant by all that, and I don't think he could've said it any clearer than that. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 11:43, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Should we add an edit button to the comments we write?

I think it would be a good idea because if we make a mistake, we should probably edit them to fix it (or them).

Batboy234 (talk) 14:42, November 30, 2023 (UTC)

This is outside of our control and would need to be dealt with by the extension creators here.

Frankly I don't care for that extension (it's a bit buggy) and I don't think OA does either. I'm thinking we could replace it entirely with something like CommentStreams. It would lose the history but be a technically better extension. Any thoughts are welcome and if people agree we might give it a shot. --Raidarr (talk) 20:23, November 30, 2023 (UTC)

Can the Wish page be restored?

I'm still completely angry over it. If anything, we need the page restored in Bad Qualities, and I am considering getting the page restored sometime later. I don't want to write the page in Bad Qualities since I love the movie.NewMarioBobFan (talk) 06:20, December 3, 2023 (UTC)

I thought you were making a draft on this or something, please link even if it's to a deleted page.

Anyway there's plenty of material between good reviews breaking down why it had a lackluster response and to comment in general so there's no reason a page can't exist, it just needs to be written decently. As I've suggested before, starting with a reception section that summarizes impressions and then getting into pointers is a way to write a more balanced page which should partially solve any conflict here. --Raidarr (talk) 12:33, December 3, 2023 (UTC)

SuperStreetKombat. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 04:13, December 4, 2023 (UTC)

Yes? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 04:40, December 4, 2023 (UTC)

I might try to get the page restored. But I need help since I loved the movie. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 04:50, December 4, 2023 (UTC)

The Raid

There are so many vandals now, we gotta do something about this. Robin (talk) 14:42, November 22, 2023 (UTC)

So far, the vandalism caused by those IP user is minimal, and I even had to lock the Little Mermaid (2023) page because it was vandalized more than other pages were today. Also, if anons continue to vandalize pages and evade bans, then we may or may not have to disable IP editting from this wiki. That all depends on how much this particular issue will continue. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 19:52, December 7, 2023 (UTC)

If I don't make progress in abusefilters then I'm fairly okay with killing ip edits, it was always a problem on old QP and restricted for good reason. But I'll wait to hear back on filters before going that route. --Raidarr (talk) 20:36, December 7, 2023 (UTC)

I could have easily take care of that problem if i had all my roles back, i banned them all since early November, there were lots of them. Robin (talk) 20:38, December 7, 2023 (UTC)

Frankly, banning them is extremely minor. It's evidenced by the fact they always come back. SSK just handled it perfectly fine and there are other mods who can do it all while offering other skills and reading comprehension to the table. And yes, any mod can block them and handle the issue. If you can write abusefilters or otherwise implement lasting measures you will be reconsidered. Otherwise your digs at becoming staff will be dismissed because you still clearly do not understand what the roles are about. Final words on that matter, make another wiki if you want to be admin. --Raidarr (talk) 20:43, December 7, 2023 (UTC)

IP editing is restricted until further notice (mainly, progress with automatic filters) and page move is now an autoconfirmed right which is something I've been meaning to do for a while anyway. --Raidarr (talk) 22:26, December 7, 2023 (UTC)

Announcement regarding the raid

Okay, I've just investigated this in my new capacity as CVT for Telepedia along with a confirmation by Original Authority. Since I've just wiped out multiple high-profile users I should make a statement. "George Floyd" appears to be independent. However three vandals correspond with three users: Sczypak, Robin, and Brazilian User. BU's already gone but now Sczypak and Robin have cast their cards in favor of vandalism and trolling so they're gone too. I warned them and they made their choice.

Various blocks and locks are now issued but I don't expect them to hold just yet so there will probably be several more tantrums as time goes on. I ask that people be patient, for current staff to be vigilant, and for the people who already said they would move on to move on. I would consider a good appeal no less than 6 months after the last incident. If they don't evade from here out that means BU, Sczypak and Robin can appeal June 8th. If there's any incident from them before then that time resets.

Spam is being worked on globally and should hopefully be less of an issue or eliminated soon.

Apologies to all for the inconvenience of this matter. --Raidarr (talk) 02:41, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Wow, so in summary, one demotion is one thing. But going full-on rogue, trolling, and outright raiding the entire wiki is just crossing the line. It's not like destroying a wiki is gonna make things any better. They're just trying to dig themselves deeper just to further worsen the reputation that the original reception wikis once had.

Also, why do some users here think that getting demoted equals ending a person's career? It's not like the real world where getting demoted from your job means a lot, because you actually get paid to do so; unlike here where administering an online website such as a wiki is only a voluntary work and you don't get paid. In addition, not really something people dedicate their lives to 24/7. Snow (talk) 03:01, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Wait, those IP edits that caused vandalism were by Szczypak, Robin, and Brazillian User? I can picture BU because of his behavior before getting globalled, but the other 2 aforementioned users? I thought Robin had at least more common sense than this, and Szczypak called out vandals for raiding a few wikis on ShoutWiki, so I never expected either of them to resort to something like this.

Y'know, the fact that those users are part of a private wiki on Miraheze and are attacking this wiki is starting to remind me of the times when SephSpace basically declared war on Qualitipedia back in 2021 before the former wiki got closed. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 05:00, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

that private is wiki is closed now. ChessGuy66 (talk) 05:06, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

I meant the RIPKobe24 Wiki, which was made by you, I believe. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 05:10, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

That wiki is not a reception one, it’s a one that mainly focuses on the media from which we derive pleasure, such as games, films and television shows, and it is reasonable to describe them as thoroughly as possible. As for games, it describes their gameplay, and in general, this wiki describes the plot and development of media in general, it may also discuss characters from these media and describe their appearance, goals and character. ChessGuy66 (talk) 05:13, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

I thought the RIPKobe24 wiki is made by the user of the same name. Though I am quite skeptical of said wiki's existence due to the way the requester worded it, and why a wiki creator even approved of it. I get that it's private, but still. The description feels similar to a typical Reception Wiki but that's just probably me. Snow (talk) 05:14, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

It was made by me, what are you guys gonna do to the wiki? ChessGuy66 (talk) 05:15, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Huh? ChessGuy66 (talk) 05:21, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Nothing. I'm not gonna do anything about it. I just want to say... good luck. That's all. Snow (talk) 05:22, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

I am completely sad and disappointmented in those users for doing that. Especially since Robin102th was an admin and has common sense. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 05:28, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

And because of this, I feel like the wiki is getting less active. NewMarioBobFan (talk) 05:32, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

This is me, Robin, being demoted is one thing, but me getting replaced by two of you is what crossed the line, this whole wiki was going great till you both took it over, in fact i contributed there since March, you can’t replace originality, and replacing me is the biggest mistake, its not like both of yours administration is an improvement from mine, nah it is a downgrade, there are lots of unecessary changes that are added in and i hate how this was added without my permission, also blocking me, Szczypak and Brazilian User till june is too much it should have been atleast till february 1, actually we dont care about it because we made another wiki but this time we wont tell where we have it, its moved on to a new wiki farm so good luck trying to take that out too, and unlike both of you new admins, i actually care about what users want more than anything else, but since my demotion, this wiki is slowly dying, especially because of less activity happening, so good luck still dragging your dead corpse around, it wont last long, we never meant any harm to begin with, the demotion shouldn't even happen, all of this just because i promoted Brazilian User which i dare to say he did quite a good job as an admin similar to me, we got tired of being treated like absolute trash so we made our own version of the wiki but much better, this new era of the wiki has gotten so much worse that even other users like ChessGuy66, Batboy234 and RandomDX57 are against this new era of the wiki, in fact i am impressed how you banned me, szczypak and brazilian user and not them too since they are also with us, also we dont care if you ban us forever, how about blacklisting us all while at it, because we already retired ever since mid-november. Anyway have fun dragging the dead skeleton corpse that this wiki became ever since mid-november. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:17, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

If you have an issue with the way things are run here, discuss them with the wiki's administration; vandalizing and complaining won't solve anything. Tali64³ (talk) 18:04, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I’m gonna have to agree with you, Robin, while I’m still honored that you made me a moderator, I still think that these new changes are still pretty dumb on your guises part, and now, before you guys start to block me, I’m not on sides with this one, I’m just saying that you both should learn from your actions. Batboy234 (talk) 18:57, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Uh, dude, RandomDX57 didn't retire because he didn't like this era, he retired because of the lack of interest. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 19:11, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Robin, I appreciate that you did not take the demotion well; unfortunately, that is just how things happen, and frankly your behaviour since is not very "admin-like", and emphasises that the judgement to remove your adminship was the correct call. Vandalising and spamming just because you were demoted is obviously not the way to do things and just shows that you are not mature enough to be an admin.

Whilst you say that you do not care about the wiki, the fact that you came back to the wiki to vandalise, and are now creating alternative accounts and using VPNs to circumvent the block shows that in fact, you care a little more than you should—this is the internet, take a break, please. I've now extended your block infinitely, and you are no longer welcome to edit on this wiki, or any wiki on the Telepedia Platform.

I wish your new wiki well, and implore that you move on as you keep saying that you are going to. That is all that will be said on the matter and please consider this discussion closed until further notice. Thanks. -- Original Authority (talk) 19:46, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

Look, Robin, I don't know if you'll respond to this, but about that thing where I said you were replaced by 2 new admins, I didn't mean to make it sound like we wanted you gone; I was just trying to say that a few new admins like Raidarr and myself could help improve this wiki, and I'm sorry if I came off as biased that way.

I know you're upset by your demotion, but vandalism and account abuse isn't gonna solve anything at all, and I know you're better than this. I've been trying my best to be nice to you while you were welcome to this wiki, and I want you to rethink your actions and hopefully you'll change yourself for the better and see that things like vandalism, trolling, and ban evasion aren't the way to go when instead you could've discussed your issues in a more civil manner.

Maybe sometime in the future, OA could change his mind and revoke your block so you could take what I said into consideration, but, well... I don't know what else to tell you. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 20:10, December 9, 2023 (UTC)

So what? EdEddandEddyFan (talk) 16:15, December 10, 2023 (UTC)

MLB 2K12

So, I wanna make a page about this baseball game published by 2K, Called MLB2K12, the problem is, at release critics had mixed thoughts on this game, but baseball fans, idk…. So does this page deserve to be positive, neutral, or negative? ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:09, December 17, 2023 (UTC)

And this ain’t about the dog water MLB 2K13. ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:11, December 17, 2023 (UTC)

Should EA FC 24 be on good or bad media?

Let’s discuss ChessGuy66 (talk) 21:02, December 20, 2023 (UTC)

Account creation problem

My friend who was trying to join New Qualitipedia couldn't create an account because they couldn't answer the questions: What is the default Wikipedia skin before Vector-2022? He answered Vector-2010 and got it wrong. What colors are the Telepedia logo? He replied: Yellow & black, Yellow and black, Yellow and white, Yellow & white and they were all wrong" ChessGuy66 (talk) 21:38, December 21, 2023 (UTC)

The "colours of the logo" question accepts a single string, either colour will do (yellow or black), but it will not accept both. The skin question is not suffixed with the year, since the original Vector skin is known as "vector" not "vector-2010". Original Authority (talk) 21:51, December 21, 2023 (UTC)

Can you guys delete this wiki or fix it please?

Oh Boy, alot of Miraheze Reception Wiki simps are gonna dump on me, but hear me out!

Guys no offense, but this wiki is just as biased as the old Qualitipedia, not to mention it's still heavily flawed. It's kinda weird these wikis still exist?

So guys, in my opinion. Because people hate reception wikis, it's best to delete this wiki or if not, here's how you Can FIX IT!

1. Remove The Little Mermaid (2023) from the Negative part, Seriously guys. this film received positive reviews from critics and Audiences, and it's only here because CJ has a weird hateboner for anything Disney does nowadays. not to mention beating dead horses on the remakes. Also while the reasons are.. kinda vaild? Some of them are complete bullshit! Like Hallie Bailey "NOt TaKInG CrTitICsM" because she called people who hated her casting Racist? Dude, no offense. most of her haters WERE toxic and racist to her casting for the wrong reasons. Not to mention the Fandom Menace made disrespectful blackface memes and even attacked her and her fans on Twitter. Also, HOW IS THIS not taking criticism?! i even seen in the comments of hating It because they Raceswapped her, Bruh. She was only cast as Ariel because she was a great singer. not because of "Woke" propaganda. Also, Hallie Bailey DID A amazing job as her! Also "Average Film?" Dude, this film was mostly well-received by Audiences, and while critics and Chuds review bombed it. most people (Including Non-Grifters on Youtube) said it was Disney's best remake since The Jungle Book. I know there are negative reviews on the video list, But i mostly saw positive/decent from non-Professional critics such as AniMat and Smarty Pants.

2. Stop adding Mixed/Average-received Media on the Negative Side, this is another reason why reception wikis were criticized. These shouldn't exist tbh. Most Mixed-received Media shouldn't be classifed as "Awful" even if it has Flaws, not to mention we have Okay Movies Wiki on FANDOM. I think the only things that should be on the negative side is both panned by critics and Audiences, like Velma or the Emoji Movie. But not Mid or Okay kid movies like.. The Boss Baby?! come on, not using the "for kids" excuse to defend it. But that doesn't make sense.

3. Cool down the Disney hate propaganda CJ has shat all over the page. Okay, i just read the Disney Page and i kinda cringed so hard. Not being a shill or anything, But.. HOW WAS DISNEY BAD SINCE.. 1994?! Like, The year when the fucking Lion King Came out?! i know the Shoutwiki version of Tiresome Movies wiki called out Awful Movies Wiki (Another terrible wiki) for defending Disney. But there is a difference between Disney as a Studio and Corporation. the Page also beats dead horses on the Live-Action Wikis for some weird reason and claims they milk their ips, Bruh they are a business! there are VAILD ways to not like Disney such as being too overprotective on Mickey's copyright and other flaws. But The Company?Studio's hate is mostly just filled with fandom menace homophobic, racist, and sexist chuds whining everytime Disney breathes. Also, i don't want to be mean. Why does CJ think Disney is worse than hitler? that's kinda unheathly!

4. Stop using Youtube reviews as a source, come on Guys! most Youtube Reviewers are NOT that reliable anyway. is this why Beauty and the Beast (2017) (Despite reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB being mostly positive) is negatively bashed here?

or 5. Delete the Wiki all together, Guys! come on. Qualtipedia and Recpetion Wikis were universally hated by everyone on the internet, So listen to what the Deviantart rants say and just shut down this wiki altogether along with other Reception Wikis. they shouldn't exist because People can form their own opinions on things!

Do not add Wish here please

I know the film received mixed reviews, but it was well-received by Audiences. Also Most Disney fans loved this film..

So i had to remove it from the Disney page, sorry but it's NOT average at all! It is misunderstood and a masterpiece.

Guys, the reception wikis are terrible! why did you guys not listen to Duchess' rant and delete it? You know these wikis are biased, hurtful, and idiotic. not to mention it will disrespect many Reception Wiki and Qualtipedia haters if these are still alive, so please pull the plug for once!

Merged headers into one block for reply. @DisneyFan12414: you are free to your opinion and I agree with parts of what you say but there are many weird things here. First things first, the wiki will not be "fixed" in the way you ask. Reception wikis are doomed by design and the only way they improve is if people put in the effort to fix things themselves. You're free to offer better sources or write better text but nobody is obliged to do it for you and I am not going to intervene as an admin unless there are clear rules being broken. Write better text, write a rebuttal, it's up to you. I will favor the better/properly sourced argument so if you want to improve the disney page, do go ahead. I even endorse a complete rebuttal page that can be linked as another perspective. Frankly I find most pages here borderline unreadable at best and I'd rather a balanced point of view be the standard. Give people both sides, let them decide. Especially do this on mixed media, focus on what the controversy is rather than trying to sell it as straight good/bad. Favor stuff with better writing/sources. But people have to come in and do it.

One thing I'm not going to buy is a rant from an ex-admin who did a lot to screw up the wikis in his time that I had to personally fix, and other rants by ex users as badly written as the lower end of page here. Deviantart rants are the peak of hypocrisy and you will not convince anyone by invoking them. If you don't like it, focus on something better. People can form their own opinion on things and it's their own bloody fault if they let borderline illiterate opinion pieces on the internet say otherwise. You can find a lot of people who people hate Disney, shall we delete them? No, that makes no sense. Try to bring positive change, or endorse something that is better. And unless you can convince Original Authority that this wiki does not bring anything to the Telepedia platform, the wiki will remain here. You can have that discussion with him on Telepedia Meta if you wish.

You have your options. Again, for things like Beauty and the Beast or Wish, I endorse revisions that come with better sourcing and content quality. I'm not going to go out of my way on this because frankly this wiki is babysitting and I'm only here to put out fires or promote people who show initiative on improving the wiki. The door is open for people who care. What you need to do is add to the solution, 'delete the wiki' or getting other people to write or unwrite stuff for you is not a solution. Stuffing words in people's mouths like "CJ think Disney is worse than hitler" is a clear strawman and makes you look less mature for it. I appreciate that you have not vandalized, been vulgar or otherwise gone overboard even if I find some of your arguments invalid. I hope you can respond in the future with courtesy and I wish you luck whatever you decide. --Raidarr (talk) 00:35, December 30, 2023 (UTC)

I can respond to DisneyFan12414 with no problems. Here are the fundamental flaws with the argument:
1) The Little Mermaid page exists because yes. I never made it, nor I ever had plans to, because I have no interests in that movie despite me hating Disney. Plus, you don't have any evidence about claims like the actress claiming that her haters are racist. Prove it or it will not be taken seriously. AniMat is often a Disney shill (I say it as somebody who subscribed to him), and he shouldn't be taken seriously.
3) I had no clue when they started their downfall, OK? It could be in any year that. Plus, I was not the one that made the page. It was actually made by somebody before, and the main reason why it appears I made the page is because I actually copy pasted it when Awful Movies Wiki was still open after its deletion and remade it with sources. The "dead horse" is something they still continually do, and just because it's a business, doesn't mean they should get a free pass from making bad movies. Your argument on Disney being overprotective towards Mickey Mouse means that other companies like Nintendo and UMG are justified in taking down fan made content and videos with music in background under "Fair Use" that isn't for profit? Plus, no, Disney is not worse than Hitler. I never treat them like that. I just have a massive hatebone for them, but never treat them worse than Hitler. Plus, like The Little Mermaid case, where's proof that the hatred towards Disney is filled with racist, homophobic people? Also, that's kind of ridiculous. If I hate Disney, does that mean I'm a Nazi, Racist and Homophobe? Looks like you stay too much on Twitter.
4) I know YouTubers aren't exactly trustworthy, but trust me, they surely are in comparison to Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb, especially the former, which was exposed of faking reviews for big corporations.
5) Do you really expect us to delete the wiki?
6) Wish will be added based on how good or bad the movie is, and it's a critical and commercial failure, and it's often considered yet another run-of-the-mill Disney Princess movie and a sour way to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the company. Your claim that you're not a Disney shill fails miserably, especially because of your last claim. Even non Disney-haters admit the movie is just cliched. Plus, you shouldn't really listen to Duchess, considering he was the one that caused massive trouble in the original Qualitipedia, and rants aren't much better either, because they have repetitive pointers.

The only thing I agree is the second reason: Average stuff. It should be fixed immediately. Anyway, this is my response CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 12:49, December 30, 2023 (UTC)

please don't delete this wiki

Guys, let's stop with this drama. Reception wikis might be biased or hated, but these are MY favorite types of wikis. I don't want new qualitipedia dead. Just that. A reception wiki just needs people that understands these types of wikis. All i want to say is...... THIS GAME IS OVER Yoshi50Windows (talk) 23:20, December 30, 2023 (UTC)

How come the rules on swearing are so much stricter here?

I'm genuinely a bit curious (and a bit out of touch). Is swearing having to be censored even on pages here because Telepedia is stricter on it than Miraheze or is it because you guys felt that allowing full swear words in pages was unnecessary? Genuinely curious, as the Old QP had full swear words. That was the advantage of being on Miraheze; things didn't need to be censored unlike FANDOM. Tkgaynor (talk) 01:32, December 31, 2023 (UTC)

Okay i understand what CJ said, but..

About the second reasoning, we should use the "Why It's Okay" part when it comes to Average Media and follow with good qualities first instead of using Negative wikis part like the Okay Movies Wiki (FANDOM not Miraheze cause the Miraheze version is freaking a Awful Movies Wiki rebrand!)

Should we do this for every Average/Mixed-Received media? Like "Why It's Average/Okay/Alright"? it's to make the wiki less meanspirited than the old Qualitipedia.

Also to improve the Disney Page, while i still think it's not good at all. I suggest removing the Race-swapping reasons since it's basically pointless and could drive racist people here. and other Fandom Menace-related things such as the Star Wars Sequels. We can make both a positive and negative page on Disney however as a alternative since there's a difference between the Studio and the Corporation.

Some Pages should be removed or reworked into "Why It's Okay" pages such as:

1. The Little Mermaid (Reason: Received Mostly mixed-to-Positive reviews, and as i said. There is indeed Proof of Racism towards Hallie Bailey, just go on twitter. it's vile and disgusting!)

2. Beauty and the Beast (Reason: Received Positive reviews, with the only negatives being from Youtube critics.)

3. Most Average or Mixed-Received Media (rework them)

titlegoeshere

replace with your 2c

Raidarr (talk) 14:42, November 22, 2023 (UTC)

Dude, i know it's not a perfect page. but this is my first time on Miraheze. if this is because of your Disney hateboner then i'm going to be kinda pissed off!

Captcha hell

When I was trying to import a page from the old TE&S Wiki, a Captcha thing popped an then checkboxed. But then the Captcha box started to loop endlessly to the point I had to reset the page, do it all again and get the endless Captcha thing. Nazaypato (talk) 20:13, January 1, 2024 (UTC)Nazaypato

Raidarr (talk) 14:42, November 22, 2023 (UTC)

This wiki got fu**ed:

Since December 2023, there are "tons" of bots/shockpuppet/users that have emerged to vandalize pages, Like "What" (yes, this is a user) and the Cold War, "Good Editor" who isn't even a real publisher and vandalized Disney three times, and lacks moderators, my unofficial wiki from August 2023 there was no drama, taking of the little joke vandals (even those related to Wiki) from "Bog spidah", there was no instability, give me permission to be a moderator/administrator or I will abandon this the wiki. Roger (talk) 20:51, January 5, 2024 (UTC)

I'll never understand why these people do those things to our New Qualitipedia...

On the other hand, there are users like myself who are respectful to everyone and don't vandalize a thing. Those users make ones like me look bad.

I'm on your side, Roger. I'll keep doing all I can to help this wiki grow. Thank you for your time. CarltheToonMan42 (talk) 21:26, January 5, 2024 (UTC)

Vandals have been removed each time so far. If there is remaining vandalism, report it.

"Lacks moderators" is obvious nonsense.

Your 'unofficial wiki' clearly has not made it on the radar. There have only been two iterations of Qualitipedia after the initial closure. The version that died because it showed up and was abandoned, and this version. So everything you're saying about your 'unofficial wiki' does not make sense.

Forgive me for not taking your "application" seriously when your argument is this easy to debunk and you then make a demand. To put it in phrasing sczypak might appreciate, I don't negotiate with terrorists and you seem to have found a home for yourself on the vandal group's server(s), where you have had every chance to see where the vandalism was starting from and you have never lifted a finger in protest. I respect Deluxe specifically because he saw good sense and has since dropped off both from that group and from reception wikis in general. Nutmeg says vaguely intelligent things but is not useful. The other five as of current including yourself have been bystanders/silent supporters of the behavior and know exactly where the vandalism is coming from. You want it to stop? You know exactly where to go.

If you want to edit here, do so, if you don't, leave. I am open to promoting more moderators and, if they show promise, raising them to admin, but I will only humor candidates who try to engage constructively and you have a long way to go. --Raidarr (talk) 00:49, January 6, 2024 (UTC)

"Obvious nonsense" and why is there only one moderator? Roger (talk) 01:51, January 6, 2024 (UTC)

Because there are several admins, one who was just a moderator. Quite the pick, I assume there's not much else to say here if we're slipping into pedantics. --Raidarr (talk) 02:25, January 6, 2024 (UTC)

Is this wiki dying?

This wiki seems like it's dying. Less and less people are making edits each day. CheeseGuy17 (talk) 21:46, January 10, 2024 (UTC)

Activity goes up and down. It's been stable enough and OA reported "minimal" change in statistics (particularly readers) after management was reset. Saying this wiki is dying is narratively convenient for the trolls who would like nothing better than to see the world burn but doesn't appear to hold up and even if it's quieter, that's okay. A handful of halfway decent users? Basically a dream. Still one of the most active reception wikis on the field. --Raidarr (talk) 21:57, January 10, 2024 (UTC)

Why is GoodEditior unblocked?

I thought he was blocked due to exaggerating his opinion to much? Batboy234 (talk) 22:34, January 10, 2024 (UTC)

GE was blocked for only a couple days as a warning against pushing his opinion too aggressively to the point of vandalizing pages, but he still has a chance to not do it and get it right. Permanent or long blocks should be a last resort when people refuse to listen after multiple chances: that was his chance. --Raidarr (talk) 22:58, January 10, 2024 (UTC)

Oh, ok! Batboy234 (talk) 23:16, January 10, 2024 (UTC)

If you're wondering why I (and a few others) keep removing every instance of "Depending on your view" and "x started/ended season n on a good/bad/high/sour note" phrases

Please read this blog I wrote about a week ago for more details. I don't think a lot of people have seen it yet, and yes. These phrases are annoying, pointless, and overused to death that they need to stop being used here for good. We have been criticized in the past for using the same cookie-cutter phrases before and its getting old, which is one of the reasons why a lot of people hate reception wikis in general. Snow (talk) 01:30, January 15, 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you, Snow. Just another way we can improve New Qualitipedia. CarltheToonMan42 (talk) 01:49, January 15, 2024 (UTC)

Rebel Moon

In case you didn't see this, I'm going to be making a page of Rebel Moon, and despite me making some edits here and there, I may also need your help too (which is why I'm starting it off as a sandbox) so that it turns out ready for me to move from a sandbox into a full on page.

SlashcraftGaming (talk) 03:16, January 15, 2024 (UTC)

If you want a review on the strength of the pointers when it's more ready, let me know. --Raidarr (talk) 12:38, January 18, 2024 (UTC)

About half season

Page like SBSP and Kick Buttowski doesn't need to be one since many people preferred to blame entire season due that thing can affected to entire series (i.e. say entire instead of half season is improvement over previous season) and media outside series never dedicated to half installment. If you want to keep this, just put on redeeming/good pointer instead of title just like rest of media. Oldwish12 (talk) 12:09, January 18, 2024 (UTC)

Hello Telepedia

It's me, jrStudios. This wiki farm has a serious problem with hosting racist, homophobic, and misogynistic wikis. The New Qualtipedia is home of very extremist wikis pointing things as "woke". Examples:

• They constantly (like the rest of Hollywood) race-bend white characters when it isn’t necessary. An example would be Ariel being brownwashed in the The Little Mermaid live-action remake.

In addition, they refuse to accept any criticism for race-swapping peach characters and instead, call people "racist" for refusing to accept these changes. This Flashgitz video illustrates that perfectly.

• • Proof Qualtipedia is racist.
• They contributed to the false mentality that The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder is teaching kids to be racist towards white people and claiming that the show is "woke", when it's not. <- More proof of racism.
• Brianna Wu was rather famously caught putting up fake reviews on her developer account to harass herself during GamerGate. <-- Proof of misogyny.
• Some writers point out every little bad thing in a show they don't like because it often doesn't support their political opinions. But they fail to mention major bad things in shows they do like because they want to promote it and their political opinions. Then they give it 5 stars and mislead parents into letting their children watch it. This especially happens with one "writer" named Emily Ashby, and they rate content containing sexual misconduct against men positively because of their opinions, bashing entertainment that supports men's rights.

Any websites, media, and articles that discredit politicians they don't like are immediately given five stars. <-- proof Qualtipedia is part of the Manosphere.

• Despite changing their stance on the LGBT+ community in recent years, their support for the LGBT+ community has become a bit extreme starting in 2021.

One example of this is their fierce opposition to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Act, which forbids the teaching of sexual orientation and gender identity to students between kindergarten and third grade (or, as the radical left calls it, the "Don’t Say Gay" bill). While originally choosing to remain neutral on the bill, they were pressured into opposing it when it was discovered that they had funded the bill. This new stance has included adding more LGBT+ content in their movies and shows and mocking anyone who opposes these additions. For example, they added an initially deleted scene of 2 women kissing each other in Pixar's Lightyear movie. However, when people voiced their opposition to this scene being included, Chris Evans, the voice of Buzz Lightyear, openly mocked them, calling them idiots "who will die off like the dinosaurs". <-- Qualtipedia being homophobic.

Please remove the Reception Wikis immediately. JrStudios (talk) 19:29, January 21, 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I think I remember you. Weren't you that user on the Miraheze version of Qualitipedia who would constantly bring up ItsFunneh and also had a habit of letting their dog chew up their Switch game cartridges? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 20:49, January 21, 2024 (UTC)

Now, you may remember me by that, but remember, I was a FORMER ADMIN of these wikis. Any "fixes" will be reverted by the corrupt staff of this wiki including Raidarr. JrStudios (talk) 12:51, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

Are you working with those twats (Szczypak, Robin, BU, and ChessGuy)? Cuz you act like that. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 18:16, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

No I am not. I am just angered about the right wing extremism on these wikis.

Szczypak was one of those reception wiki fanboys. JrStudios (talk) 18:21, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

Not anymore. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 18:23, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

CJ, you seem like one of those far right anti SJW people. The reason why you like these wikis is likely because you hold the views listed above. Brownwashing is a term used by the far right to promote their white supremacy, and y'all use the "woke" argument against the 2016 Ghostbusters movie still to this day. JrStudios (talk) 18:28, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

Lmao. I'm not a far right anti SJW. If that was the case, The Owl House wouldn't be my all time favourite animated show. I like these wikis because of my experience with friends, and being fun editing. I acknowledged its fundamental flaws, and always wanted it to get better. CJWorldGame32125 (talk) 21:09, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

Hi JrStudios, lets take this point by point.

• Proof Qualitipedia is racist: If the pointers (which you have cherry picked without links) are poor, by all means fix them. You've made a handful of pointers here targeting specific sentences and accusing the wiki farm, the reception wikis and new qualitipedia (all different things you've used interchangeably) of a systemic problem. Your argument here is weak and barely anything to work with. Anyone is invited to improve these pointers, personally the first three could probably be removed as they make large assertions and back them up poorly. "Race bending" is a silly thing to get fussed about I agree. If the point explains that a race is flipped with no in-setting logic or rationale, there might be something to discuss.
• Proof of misogyny: if it gets a source then it's a fact, not misogyny. That seems to be a word you're using to further an agenda and not a useful criticism. However if it is not sourced it can be removed as it's a rather bold claim to make.
• proof Qualtipedia is part of the Manosphere: The quote before this is nonsensical and should be removed or rewritten entirely, but "part of the manosphere" is equally useless.
• Qualtipedia being homophobic: Link the page, I may alter the point or remove the content as overly partisan. But since nothing is linked and you're just making quips claiming extremism I have very little to go on to take action.

"Please remove the Reception Wikis immediately?" I think not. You're free to work on things that need improvement, lord knows this wiki is a mess, but if you can't offer real solutions then the wiki might not be a place for you. --Raidarr (talk) 22:07, January 21, 2024 (UTC)

The Walt Disney Company page is the main one, with the GamerGate parts being part of the Fake Reviews page and other parts being sourced from the Common Sense Media page. This wiki is a far-right echo chamber (bold claim I know) and almost sucked me into the far right. What do you say for yourself, former Miraheze admin? JrStudios (talk) 13:25, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

I say you have always been remarkably naive and you are responsible for your own actions, even before the actions that got you fired for misconduct on the old wikis which is rather difficult to do on a reception wiki. --Raidarr (talk) 13:45, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

Custom styling for this wiki

This wiki has had no styling since its inception, which looks quite bland. To solve this issue, I've created this custom styling that looks pretty sharp; try it out and tell me what you think. Tali64³ (talk) 23:20, January 22, 2024 (UTC)

I made a draft at one point which got mixed to negative feedback, since scrapped it in favor of keeping basic. If there is reasonably good support for this any admin is free to make it a default look in MediaWiki:Vector.css. For those looking to test: paste the contents of the linked custom styling into your personal vector.css page. A sitenotice may also be added to draw attention. --Raidarr (talk) 00:03, January 23, 2024 (UTC)

Notice is added, lets see what folks think. --Raidarr (talk) 12:14, January 24, 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure how good a sitenotice will be since the Vector skin has vanished completely for seemingly no reason. Tali64³ (talk) 13:39, January 24, 2024 (UTC)

That makes no sense to me, I'm viewing on vector right now and vector is the wiki's default unless you're on mobile. --Raidarr (talk) 13:52, January 24, 2024 (UTC)

I am also viewing in Vector. -- Original Authority (talk) 13:59, January 24, 2024 (UTC)

The Vector skin takes some time to appear if I switch to desktop view; that might be why I was confused. Tali64³ (talk) 15:16, January 24, 2024 (UTC)

I find it works best when you manually enforce desktop view at the bottom of the page, on top of the browser's setting. --Raidarr (talk) 17:24, January 25, 2024 (UTC)

I think we should add an eye-appealing color pallete, far and different from the Terrible/Great TV Shows Wikias. Nazaypato (talk) 16:57, January 25, 2024 (UTC)

I would be inclined to agree. The green is not the nicest and is very heavy on the eyes. Original Authority (talk) 17:03, January 25, 2024 (UTC)

Examples/samples are welcome, the floor is open to improve appearances. --Raidarr (talk) 17:24, January 25, 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. Tali64³ (talk) 17:57, January 25, 2024 (UTC)

The background color fits but the white color of the page part is really unappealing to the eye. Maybe make that a lighter shade of green. --Angry109 (talk) 11:50, January 28, 2024 (UTC)

Done. Tali64³ (talk) 16:49, January 28, 2024 (UTC)

Should there be a page about company layoffs on this wiki?

I'm not sure if this is on-topic or not, but with how many layoffs companies have been going through (especially one in the gaming industry) for the past year so, it seems pretty appropriate to me that a hypothetical page about that kind of practice sorta deserves a page here.

I know how common it is for a company to layoff its staff, but that kind of practice has been taken to a whole level last year, especially with video games, and since Microsoft has cut its staff again like they did last year, that seems like the straw that broke the camel's back that I think a page about layoffs is warranted.

Also, if such a page does get created, do you think it should be about layoffs at gaming studios or layoffs at studios in pretty much media in general? What do you guys think of this? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 23:48, January 25, 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary but if a good draft is made I don't believe it would be too out of scope. Perhaps OA has an opinion here. It may as well cover media in general if it does get made. --Raidarr (talk) 09:59, January 26, 2024 (UTC)

What would OA think of a page about company layoffs? Would he approve of it? SuperStreetKombat (talk) 19:41, January 26, 2024 (UTC)

About PalWorld

The Xbox versions run atrociously, and have terrible looking graphics, bad sound quality, and it loves to crash alot. I feel like making a page for this game, as it clearly plagiarizes Pokémon assets and due to how poorly it runs. Blastoise (talk) 03:51, January 30, 2024 (UTC)

I've heard quite a lot about the game (especially since it's basically PokeMon with guns), and I've also heard how commercially successful it is, though I haven't heard of how well or poorly recieved it is by the general consensus yet. However, there are those who do say it's more original (if not better) than PokeMon since the latter franchise has been on a decline for the past decade due to its supposed lack of innovation as of late. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 04:47, January 30, 2024 (UTC)

Could you back up the claim of asset plagiarism? I've heard claims about it but the details are the key. --Raidarr (talk) 09:23, January 30, 2024 (UTC)

Also, it's an early access/in development game with extremely positive reviews at a cursory glance. A negative perception page combined with roughly backed assertions and early development trouble is inappropriate. --Raidarr (talk) 21:32, January 30, 2024 (UTC)

Couldn't have said it better than myself. SuperStreetKombat (talk) 00:49, January 31, 2024 (UTC)