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"It's made for kids" is an excuse used to dismiss criticism of entertainment made for younger audiences.
Background
It is well known that kids are easier to entertain by simpler things that older viewers may find stupid or boring at first. Likewise, kids are unlikely to understand and/or appreciate more highly complicated and mature shows (like The Simpsons). Because of that, media targeted at younger audiences tend to be simpler than shows targeted at older audiences, but that doesn't mean that shows aimed at kids should be too simplistic, realistic, and basic.
Often when people criticize kids' media for either poor quality, cheap comedy, lacking any real substance, logic, and/or intelligence, or anything else they don't like, some people might use the fact that "It's made for kids" as an excuse for doing so. Sure, it may be made for kids, but that is not a reasonable excuse for making poor-quality, effortless, and excessively kid-friendly shows that older viewers will find stupid and/or poorly executed. This excuse also makes kids look like idiots with no real taste or standards who will like anything aimed at them, which isn't true. According to Raven's quote above, "Kids are a lot smarter than they're given credit for." (This is hypocritical because Teen Titans Go! often uses this excuse.)
On the other hand, some older people dismiss shows targeted at young audiences as "kiddie media." Just because it's made for kids doesn't mean older viewers can't watch them or won't find the challenge and substance in them. If the show is made well enough, anyone of any age can enjoy it.
Even if a media is aimed at kids, older viewers may also be interested in it (the show would be rated either TV-G-rated, TV-PG or E for Everyone and the TV guidelines rating "TV-G" means "General Audiences," not just kids, but adults too). There are many media aimed at younger audiences that can also be enjoyed by older viewers, such as Phineas and Ferb, The Amazing World of Gumball, Ren and Stimpy, Gravity Falls, etc; The aforementioned media are made for kids but have enough substance and real effort put in to be entertaining for grownups and don't pander towards kids (either younger or in their pre-teen years).
There is no excuse for making poorly-made media for everyone.
Why This Excuse Sucks
- It’s just a way for people to dismiss criticism towards bad kids' media. By rejecting criticism, the quality of the media may never improve.
- Pointing out the flaws in kids' media can leave improvement and ensure that more kids' media can be made to be enjoyed by grownups as well.
- This whole excuse treats kids like idiots with no discernible taste or standards, who will like anything given to them, which isn't true. Kids may be easy to entertain, but they're not as dumb as you might think.
- It should be noted that contrary to popular belief, actually even kids would very likely not enjoy these poorly-made kids' shows that are shown to them, hence highlighting this fact further.
- In fact, most niche audience shows that are considered bad enforcement with this excuse once cluttered the wiki in the past, before they were temporarily removed here and once attempted to move to the planned Terrible Niche Audience Shows Wiki, but that wiki closed due to inactivity. As of recent, the niche audience shows have since come back to the wiki.
- The only thing this excuse encourages kids to do is to stoop to any low level like ignoring their parents, not listening to them, or simply not caring one little bit about them.
- The overuse of this excuse is what tends to make cartoons and kids' media in general, receive a negative reputation from older audiences, even though some shows don't even deserve all the hate and backlash they receive or if the show is in question is well received or not.
- This excuse is the main reason why the American television industry treats animation like something for kids most of the time instead of an art form that can be used for older audiences.
How to Make a Good Children's Media
- At least when coming up with an art style (especially character designs) don’t make it way too cartoonish, photorealistic, or simplistic, and come up with something pleasing to the eye, instead, make it much detailed, unique, or complicated.
- Humanoid/anthropomorphic animals, toys, talking vehicles/trains, and fantasy creatures are usually a good pick for this. Thomas the Tank Engine, Bob the Builder, and PAW Patrol are among three of the best examples of this.
- Even if the art style is pretty ugly (albeit intentional), the show can still be fun to watch due to the charm. Many of the Klasky-Csupo shows are a good example of this (like Rugrats, Rocket Power, The Wild Thornberrys etc.)
- With the premise or plot, try to make it understandable, detailed, unique, and not too complicated instead of making it cliched, generic, overused or simplistic.
- The writing should also be either sharp, well-timed, consistent, or just paced decently for all viewers to follow and see how competent the story and everything around it is. Don’t have everything dumbed down just because the show is for children. While you’re at it too, don't write stories that make the writing so shallow or poor enough to where the episode you're writing looks as if you're playing down the audience by thinking children are mindless enough to find poorly written substance funny either.
- Children and other viewers should be able to watch the show and enjoy their time observing what's on-screen or just catch the viewers' interest with what's going on in an episode without having anything essentially annoying, tedious, grating, or boring.
- For any content outside of children’s media like profanity, sexual content, or blood, have very little to no amount of that. Mild cartoon violence is fine especially if the characters in the show are non-humans or the violence is used as "slapstick". Tom and Jerry is an example of this and so is Looney Tunes. The only times that slapstick-induced content with a human character was done right were in cartoons such as Steven Universe, and The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy.
- Nevertheless, this can be somewhat averted if the show appeals to both children and older audiences. Examples of this are The Amazing World of Gumball, Gravity Falls, The Owl House, Rocko's Modern Life, Teen Titans, Star vs. The Forces of Evil, Bluey, and so on. For that to happen, make sure you don't let your target audience be uncertain as to if your show in question can't tell if it's made for either younger or older audiences.
- If you want your show to discuss any mature topics make sure the themes are not too over the top, the topics also need to be taken seriously and addressed in a manner that kids can understand (it can also be played for laughs and understandable black comedy).
- Examples of shows that have done this to include Serious Topics: Rugrats (family loss), As Told By Ginger (breakups, appendix surgery, death, implied depression, and caffeine addictions) Mister Roger's Neighborhood (the Vietnam war), Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood (autism and death), Ben 10: Ultimate Alien (Stockholm syndrome, suicide, death, fame, mortality), Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids (racism), Hey Arnold! (parents putting one child over the other), Arthur (autism, cancer, and the Vietnam War), The Proud Family (sexism and racism), Steven Universe (Authoritarianism and rebellion), Gravity Falls (Sibling and family relationships), etc.
- If you want to make an educational type of show then use some entertainment value to keep kids interested, especially for shows that are rated TV-Y, G and E and sometimes TV-G, TV-Y7, PG and E10+.
- Make some of your most immersive characters that serve as good role models and protagonists or real challenges as antagonists.
- Some children's shows even lack antagonists to retain a pleasing mood such as Bluey.
- When coming to the animated TV Show adaptations of the original source material (e.g. Comic Books and Graphic Novels, Novels, Toys, Books, Video Games, Japanese media (like Anime, Manga, OVA, Light Novels, Doujinshis, etc), or even other things like food mascots, and more), you must be faithful to the original source material, or even better, have a great charm and heart to the OG piece of source material.
- To make it even more faithful, hire a crew that are fans or they fully understand of the original source material, and crew that they worked in an original source material
- Or if you want to be better with it, try making the ideas of an original concept of the source material, and mix it with original ideas
- For further information, read the page of it (in development)
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- DONT TALK DOWN TO YOUR AUDIENCE, ESPECIALLY ON A EDUCATIONAL SHOW!
Examples of Good Kids Media
NOTE: Keep in mind that some good kids shows could also use the excuse, and some kids' shows can also be good for kids despite their flaws. This is not an exhaustive list.
Shows
- 101 Dalmatians: The Series
- 101 Dalmatian Street
- Robotboy
- My Gym Partner's a Monkey
- Do ug
- Adventure Time
- Amphibia
- Andi Mack
- Alvin and the Chipmunks (1983 series)
- Angel's Friends
- Angry Beavers
- A Gurls Wurld
- Penguins of Madagascar (TV Show)
- Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness
- Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir (seasons 1 & 2)
- Adventures of the Gummi Bears
- Alice's Wonderland Bakery
- American Dragon: Jake Long
- Robot & Monster
- The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy
- Animaniacs (original and reboot)
- Arthur
- Ask the StoryBots
- Avatar: The Last Airbender
- Baby Einstein
- Back at the Barnyard
- Bananas in Pyjamas (1992-2001 series)
- Battle for Dream Island
- Batman: The Animated Series
- Bunk'd (seasons 1 & 2)
- Beany and Cecil (1962 series)
- The Big Comfy Couch
- Ben 10 (2005)
- Ben 10: Alien Force
- Ben 10: Ultimate Alien
- Ben 10 (2016, season 5)
- Bear in the Big Blue House
- Beyblade (various installments)
- Big Blue
- Big City Greens
- Bunnicula
- Blaze and the Monster Machines
- Blue's Clues (Steve Burns era)
- Blue's Clues & You
- Bluey
- Bing and Bong/Tiny Planets
- Bob the Builder (original)
- Bossy Bear
- Bubble Guppies
- Brandy & Mr. Whiskers
- Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
- CatDog
- Care Bears (1980s series)
- Clifford the Big Red Dog (2000 series)
- Chowder
- Chuggington
- Courage the Cowardly Dog
- Curious George
- Cyberchase (seasons 1-8)
- Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers
- Darkwing Duck
- Danny Phantom
- Danger Mouse (both the 1981 original and 2015 reboot)
- Digby Dragon
- Dinosaur Train
- Digimon (seasons 1, 3, 6-7, 9-present)
- Dorameon (1979 incarnation)
- Dorameon (2005 incarnation)
- Dexter's Laboratory
- Doki
- Dorothy the Dinosaur (TV Series 1 & 2) (2007-2008)
- DuckTales (both the 1989 original and 2017 reboot)
- Dumb and Dumber : The Animated Series
- Earth to Luna!
- Earthworm Jim
- Eek! The Cat
- Elinor Wonders Why
- Eloise: The Animated Series
- Hamtaro
- Ed, Edd n Eddy
- El Chapulin Colorado Animado
- El Perro y el Gato
- Esme & Roy
- Felix the Cat
- Fetch! with Ruff Ruffman
- Fireman Sam (seasons 1-5)
- Fizzy Lunch Lab
- Franklin
- Gargoyles
- Gaspard and Lisa
- Garfield and Friends
- Gerald McBoing Boing (2005)
- The Ghost and Molly McGee
- Gravity Falls
- Harvey Beaks
- Hey Arnold!
- Hello Kitty: Super Style
- H2o: Just Add Water
- Henry Danger (seasons 4 & 5)
- Horrid Henry
- Inspector Gadget (1983)
- iCarly (2007)
- Iggy Arbunckle
- The Mask: The Animated Series
- Ace Ventura: The Animated Series
- Freakazoid!
- Johnny Bravo
- Jimmy Two-Shoes
- Johnny Test (2005 seasons 1-3 and the 2021 revival)
- Kappa Mikey
- Kiff
- Kid Cosmic
- Kim Possible
- Kirby Right Back At Ya!
- LazyTown
- LEGO Ninjago (seasons 1-6, 8-9, 12-present)
- Let's Go Luna!
- Lupi & Baduki
- Little Bill
- Little Einsteins
- Looney Tunes
- Louie
- L'il Stompers
- Lilo & Stitch: The Series
- Martha Speaks
- Medabots
- Mickey Mouse
- Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
- Mako Mermaids
- Mickey Mouse Mixed Up Adventures
- Mickey Mouse Funhouse
- Miffy and Friends
- Mighty Magiswords
- My Life as a Teenage Robot
- Invader Zim
- Monsters at Work
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic
- Monster High
- Naruto SD: Rock Lee and his Ninja Pals
- Nature Cat
- The 1989-2010 Nickcoms (Drake & Josh, iCarly, Victorious, etc.)
- Oggy and the Cockroaches
- One Piece Party
- The Pink Panther Show
- PAW Patrol (seasons 1-6)
- Phineas and Ferb
- Peg + Cat
- Peep and the Big Wide World
- Pocoyo
- Pokémon (except for the Black and White era)
- Popeye the Sailor
- Postman Pat (original)
- Regular Show
- Rocko's Modern Life
- Rosie's Rules
- Rolie Polie Olie
- Ruby Gloom
- Rugrats & the 2021 reboot
- Raven's Home
- Santiago of the Seas
- Sagwa, the Chinese Siamese Cat
- SciGirls
- Sesame Street
- She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
- Space Chickens in Space
- Star vs. the Forces of Evil
- Super Why!
- Super Wish
- Superman: The Animated Series
- Steven Universe
- Stickin' Around
- Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!
- Sgt. Frog (Keroro Gunsou)
- Count Duckula
- Mr. Bean: The Animated Series
- Pingu
- Little Lulu (Famous Studios)
- Larva
- The Little Lulu Show
- Sonic the Hedgehog (various installments, except for Sonic Underground)
- Smighties
- Special Agent Oso
- SpongeBob SquarePants (seasons 1-5, 9-present)
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003)
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012)
- Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
- TaleSpin
- Team Umizoomi
- Teen Titans
- The Adventures of Chuck and Friends
- The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius
- The Amazing Digital Circus
- The Amazing World of Gumball
- The Backyardigans
- The Busy World of Richard Scarry
- The Cat in the Hat Knows a Lot About That!
- The Cuphead Show!
- The Epic Tales of Captain Underpants
- The Fairly OddParents (seasons 1-8)
- The Next Step (seasons 1-3, 6-present)
- The Saddle Club (seasons 1 & 2)
- The Legend of Korra
- The Loud House (seasons 1b-3, 6b-present)
- The Casagrandes
- The Magic School Bus
- The Octonauts
- Toot & Puddle
- Tractor Tom
- Trolls: The Beat Goes On!
- Trolls: TrollsTopia
- The Berenstain Bears (1985)
- The Berenstain Bears (2002)
- The Elephant Princess
- The Powerpuff Girls (1998)
- Tom and Jerry
- Droopy/Tex Avery MGM Cartoons
- Tiny Toon Adventures
- The Mole Sisters
- Wander Over Yonder
- The Wild Thornberrys
- Willa's Wild Life
- The Wiggles (TV Series) (OG/Sam era)
- The Real Ghostbusters
- The Mr. Men Show (1997)
- The Mr. Men Show (2008)
- The Owl House
- Thomas & Friends (seasons 1-8) and (seasons 17-21)
- Total Drama (seasons 1-4)
- Totally Spies!
- The Magic Roundabout
- The Smurfs
- ¡Mucha Lucha!
- T.U.F.F. Puppy
- ThunderCats (1985 original)
- ThunderCats (2011 reboot)
- True and the Rainbow Kingdom
- True: Terrific Tales
- Uncle Grandpa
- We Bare Bears
- Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!
- Wild Kratts
- VeggieTales
- Victorious
- Voltron: Legendary Defender (seasons 1-6)
- Wing Commander Academy
- Winx Club (seasons 1-4)
- W.I.T.C.H.
- Work It Out Wombats!
- Sabrina: The Animated Series
- Woody Woodpecker (1944-1961)
- Yin Yang Yo!
- Xavier Riddle and the Secret Museum
- Zig & Sharko
- Zoboomafoo
- Foxy Fables
- Jellystone!
- The Jetsons
- The Quick Draw McGraw Show
- Star Darlings
- Space Ghost (1966)
- Jonny Quest (1964)
- Jessie
- George of the Jungle (1967)
- The first season of George of the Jungle (2007)
- Tugs
- Theodore Tugboat
- Wacky Races (1968)
- The Flintstones
- Wonder Pets!
- Little Bear
- Yogi Bear
- Yo Gabba Gabba!
- Zoey 101
Examples of Bad/Average Kids Media with this Excuse
This is not an exhaustive list.
Shows
- Abby's Flying Fairy School
- Almost Naked Animals
- ALVINNN!!! and the Chipmunks
- Angela Anaconda
- Angelina Ballerina
- Allegra's Window
- A.N.T. Farm
- Baby Shark's Big Show!
- Bubsy (rejected pilot)
- Battletoads
- Bananas in Pajamas (2011)
- Barney & Friends
- Ben 10 (2016, seasons 1-4)
- Billy Dilley Super-Duper Subterranean Summer
- Bunk'd (seasons 3-7)
- Bizaardvark (seasons 1 & 2)
- Breadwinners
- Blue's Clues (Joe/Donovan Patton era)
- Bob the Builder (2015)
- Bo on the Go
- Boohbah
- Bunsen is a Beast
- Bunny Maloney (Despite it's innapropiate humor)
- Butt-Ugly Martians
- Caillou (1997)
- Caillou (2024)
- Clifford the Big Red Dog (2019)
- Cocomelon
- Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island
- Captain N: The Game Master
- Cramp Twins
- Cyberchase (seasons 9-present)
- Cubix
- Digimon (seasons 2, 4-5, 8)
- DinoSquad
- Dorameon (2005 incarnation; Disney XD dub)
- Donkey Hodie
- Danger Force
- Star vs. the Forces of Evil (seasons 3 & 4)
- Doodlebops Rockin' Road Show
- Dora (2024)
- Dorothy the Dinosaur (TV Series 3) (2010)
- Dumb and Dumber: The Animated Series
- El Chavo Animado (seasons 3-7)
- Fanboy & Chum Chum
- Fireman Sam (CGI era, seasons 6-present) (a very infamous example)
- Fish Hooks
- Fleabag Monkeyface
- Franklin & Friends (2011)
- Fred: The Show
- Game Shakers
- The season 2 revival of George of the Jungle (2007)"
- Glitter Force
- Hammerman
- Henry Danger (seasons 1-3)
- Herman and Katnip (One of the very first examples of such "it's made for kids" cartoons produced during the Golden Age of American animation)
- HobbyKids Adventures
- Inspector Gadget (2015)
- Johnny Test (seasons 4-6)
- Just Jamie
- Dora the Explorer (seasons 6-8)
- Kamen Rider (certain installments)
- Keroro (2014)
- Kung Fu Dino Posse
- Kuu Kuu Harajuku (season 1)
- Kick Buttowski: Suburban Daredevil (season 2)
- The Legend of Zelda (1989)
- Llama Llama
- Little Ellen
- Little Princess School
- Lyla in the Loop
- Megamind Rules
- Mega Babies
- Masked Rider (Saban)
- Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir (seasons 3-present)
- My Life Me
- My Little Pony: Pony Life
- Mysticons
- Nickcoms (2011-present)
- Oggy Oggy (Netflix Series)
- Out of Jimmy's Head
- Pearlie
- Peppa Pig
- Pokemon (Black and White era)
- Pickle and Peanut (despite it being made to be bad)
- Pig Goat Banana Cricket
- Pinkalicious & Peterrific
- Planet Sheen
- Pop Secret
- Popee the Performer (Despite having no commitment to the quality of a common kids' show and was made to be bad)
- Popeye and Son
- Popeye's Island Adventures
- PopPixie
- Pound Puppies (1986)
- Rainbow Rangers
- Rocket Monkeys
- Ryan's Mystery Playdate
- Sam & Cat
- Sabrina's Secret Life
- Sanjay and Craig
- Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue!
- SpacePOP
- Spirit: Riding Free
- Stan Lee's Superhero Kindergarten
- Stargate Infinity
- Stitch!
- Shake It Up
- Stitch & Ai
- Super Duper Sumos
- Super Sentai (certain installments)
- Supernoobs
- Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills
- Teen Titans Go! (also another famous example)
- Teletubbies
- Teamo Supremo
- The Adventures of Kid Danger
- The Doodlebops
- The DaVincibles
- The Eggs
- The Fairly OddParents (seasons 9 & 10)
- The Jungle Forest Show (another huge offender of this excuse)
- The Loud House (season 1, 4-6)
- The Saddle Club (season 3)
- The Garfield Show (seasons 1 & 2)
- The Magic School Bus Rides Again
- The New Adventures of Beany and Cecil
- The Naughty Naughty Pets (despite it being made to be bad)
- The Powerpuff Girls (2016) (also another huge offender of this excuse)
- The Problem Solverz
- The Shnookums and Meat Funny Cartoon Show
- The Twisted Tales of Felix the Cat
- The Super Hero Squad Show
- The Wacky World of Tex Avery
- The Wubbulous World of Dr. Seuss
- The Tom and Jerry Comedy Show
- The Tom and Jerry Show (1975)
- Thomas & Friends (Seasons 9-16 and 22-24)
- Thomas & Friends: All Engines Go (The most infamous and relevant example)
- ThunderCats Roar
- The Wiggles (TV Series) (2013-present; Emma/Fruit Salad era)
- Tib and TumTum
- Tickety Toc
- Tomorrow's Pioneers (Despite not committing to the quality of a common kids' show)
- Total Drama All-Stars & Pahkitew Island
- Total DramaRama
- The Next Step (seasons 4 & 5)
- Turbo F.A.S.T (season 3)
- Wacky Races (2017)
- Wayside
- We Baby Bears
- Wild Grinders
- Wish Kid
- Winx Club (Seasons 5-8)
- Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain
- The Adventures of Paddy the Pelican (One of the very first television cartoons ever made, notorious for its extremely low production values)
- Bucky and Pepito
- Clutch Cargo
- Woody Woodpecker (1962-1972)
- Wiggle and Learn (2024 YouTube Series)
- The Pink Panther Show (1978-1980)
- Yo Yogi!
- VeggieTales in the House/VeggieTales in the City
- Kids Incorporated
- Jay Jay the Jet Plane
- All TV shows aired on Smile TV (except for classic VeggieTales)
Video Games
- Agent Hugo
- Animal Soccer World
- Avatar: The Last Airbender: Quest for Balance
- Car Wash Tycoon
- Cartoon Kingdom
- Cartoon Network: Battle Crashers
- Casper and the Ghostly Trio
- Countryside Bears/Winkey, The Little Bear
- Dalmatians
- Dr. Dolittle (video game)
- Home Alone (2006 video game)
- London Cab Challenge
- Mr. Bean (video game)
- Myth Makers: Super Kart GP
- Nice Cats
- Peter Pan (2007)
- Pinocchio
- Skateboard Madness: Xtreme Edition
- Snow White and the 7 Clever Boys
- The 3D Adventures of Sailor Moon
- White Van Racer
- Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
Movies
- A Fairly Odd Movie: Grow Up, Timmy Turner!
- A Loud House Christmas
- Alvin and the Chipmunks (2007)
- Baby Geniuses
- Barney's Great Adventure
- Bobbleheads: The Movie
- Cool Cat Saves the Kids
- Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul
- Doogal
- George of the Jungle 2
- Gladiformers
- Hop
- Home Sweet Home Alone
- Jem and the Holograms (2015)
- Little & Big Monsters
- Marmaduke (2022)
- Monster Family
- Norm of the North
- Pinocchio: A True Story
- Ryan's World the Movie: Titan Universe Adventure
- Saving Bikini Bottom: The Sandy Cheeks Movie
- The Boss Baby
- The Boss Baby: Family Business
- The Dolphin: Story of a Dreamer
- The Little Cars in the Great Race
- The Little Panda Fighter
- The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure
- Titanic: The Legend Goes On
- Ratatoing
- Kim Possible (2019)
- Megamind vs. the Doom Syndicate
- What's Up: Balloon to the Rescue!